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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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ok i just changed my oil after i added what i thought was about 3.3 quarts into the engine*( i was pouring out of a 2 gallon jug so im guessing) started the car ranit for 20 seconds checked the dipstick and it was barley above the first hole. so i added just a bit more , repeted the process and now im right at/over the top line!! is this a problem? Should i drain some oil out , ? if so how ? without buying another jug of synthetic? thanks
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Default Re: First oil cange not as planned please help............ (Mrwool983455)

if it is just over the second hole it will be fine.if you want to drain some just loosen the bolt on the oil pan,let a little drain,then tighten it
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard, no offense. YOU DONT START YOUr CAR AFTER AN OIL CHANGE AND CHECK THE OIL LEVEL.

once you start your car, the oil is picked up and moved around the head, so the dipstick will not read all of the oil in your motor. you have to pour the "3.3 quarts" and then check it immediatly because all of the oil will be in the oil pan, which the dipstick will read. ''i would drain it again and start all over again.

dont start it this time until after you have checked your dipstick.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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if its just over the line, i would leave it.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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what??? where ar eyou getting this information from if i may ask.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gaydm.accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what??? where ar eyou getting this information from if i may ask.</TD></TR></TABLE>


what??? why not? if its just over the line it wont hurt anything....
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


what??? why not? if its just over the line it wont hurt anything....</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree with muller.

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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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im not sure if im getting this... what i was debating was why anothersickhatch said you shouldnt start the engine after you change your oil when checking dip stick.

you start the car to let the oil move from the head down to the block. if you check the stick before you start the engine it will come up short then onc eyou start the engine and check the oil the oil then moves down and when you check the stick its to where it is suppose to be at.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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well i have done a million oil changes and EVERY SINGLE TIME i have done it this way, i am always right on. my oil line is right between the two holes.

i drain the oil, fill it up till its a little above half way, then drive it as i would normally. the next morning, check it again and it should be right on. starting the motor only makes the oil move up to the head, not the other way around. you have to put the oil in, wait a few minutes, then check it.

what you did will not give as accurate of a reading because 3.3 quarts is more than enough to get to the first hole in your dipstick, but when you checked it AFTER you ran the motor, it wasnt reading ANY oil. hows that possible???---the oil is still in the head and the pump.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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where i work we change oil on about 60 cars a day.(its a lube shop) our procedure goes as follows... drain the oil, pour the oil, start the car, make sure that there are no leaks (which is also why we start the car) then check the dip stick.

i have also experimented with customers cars... i would pour the oil then check the stick it comes up short then i would start the car and then check the stick and the oil is where it is suppose to be. without adding in more oil of course.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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i dont know about that one...sounds very strange to me. i dont understand how starting the car can give you a more accurate reading than letting the oil drain down to the oil pan as opposed to the oil going up the oil pick-up, through the oil pump, and into the head.

p.s. i didnt mean to sound like a dick in my first post.
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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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the oil is suppose to be checked hot...if you check it in the morning...that wont give u an accurate reading...correct me if im wrong
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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the oil should be CHANGED hot, not checked.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 04:48 AM
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You start the car so that the oil circulates around the engine, and fills up the oil filter. You wait a couple minutes to let the oil drain down to the pan and then you check it. This is going to be your true reading...after the oil filter and whatnot has been filled. This is my understanding.

Whatever the reason, if the oil moves up to the head or whatnot, it will be your true reading after it has done so. Think about it, if you have 5 quarts in an engine, but all of it is in the head...what good is that? It needs to be in the pan so it can be pumped. Your true reading as it matters to the engine is after it has been ran. I thought this was common sense....
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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HAAA!!! anothersickhatch I was right!!!..haha just playin
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gaydm.accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where i work we change oil on about 60 cars a day.(its a lube shop) our procedure goes as follows... drain the oil, pour the oil, start the car, make sure that there are no leaks (which is also why we start the car) then check the dip stick.

i have also experimented with customers cars... i would pour the oil then check the stick it comes up short then i would start the car and then check the stick and the oil is where it is suppose to be. without adding in more oil of course.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same thing here, I used to work at a shop and that was the exact procedure we always used. Can't say I've ever heard of anything different.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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thanks to everyone , i know im a moron but im learning, people assume your born with the basic knowledge of routine maintinence on your car, not i. My dad knows crap about cars and thats exactly what he passsed on to me! I took bodyshop at vocational school so i can paint your car with the best of em , just not get it working when it breaks down. I've read all the honda/compact car books, and im still nervous ever time i touch my car but im determined to learn so gimme a break.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Here's our procedure at Xpress Lube

Check the oil when the car pulls in, drain the oil, change the filter, fill the oil, start it, check for leaks oil pressure and to be sure the filter is getting hot, turn it off and check the oil.

If you check the oil before you start it with 3.3 qts it will show over full because there is going to be between .25 and a half a quart of oil in the filter. Just leave your level where it is.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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doesnt the jug have measurement lines on it for u to follow?
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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no unfortionatly it doesnt, i broke the cap on my jug and had to transfer it to a generic container, anyway i may be crazy but the car seems to be running smoother than usuall! I have less vibration at idol it seems, but honda enginnners put the safty line there for a reason.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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[QUOTE=DSeriesBKilla]Here's our procedure at Xpress Lube

Check the oil when the car pulls in, drain the oil, change the filter, fill the oil, start it, check for leaks oil pressure and to be sure the filter is getting hot, turn it off and check the oil.
QUOTE]This is almost exactly like my Owner's Manual says, except it doesn't mention anything about checking to make sure the filter is getting hot.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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hot as in: theres oil getting to it... as in: checking for leaks from the filter.
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