i got a b16 short block at my house and i was going 2 build it 4 fun. I love torque though, but i love reving high much better. Motor is going in 2 a 1994 teg, so i need it 2 pick up alittle be at the begging. I was thinking of using a gsr head instead of a b16 cause it gives me more midrange and a higher compresion. But i also herd that the p30 manifold is good 4 torque has well. Im not messing wit the bottom end so every thing is going 2 b head work. I just want 2 run a high 13 daily driven. I no i can get thier wit my b18b block, but i dont like the fact that i have 2 drive around on a bid cam lobe the hole day. So help me out a give some good setups.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joboost13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i also herd that the p30 manifold is good 4 torque has well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

on a b16, that is very true, but, if you plan on revving above 8400rpm or so, the p30 will run out of steam.

 

no 1 else? Comon people, help a brother out with a decent setup, iam new 2 building b16's. Ive always stayed wit N/A ls's, as in no vtec. So i need help on whats good 4 a b16 motor.

 

i dont think b16 and torque can be used in the same sentance...

 

Never mention "B16" with a stock bore/stroke and "torque" in the same sentence without forced induction.

Sorry buddy, you're not gonn'a get much torque out of a B16 block. Do an LS/VTEC with your LS block. Then you'll have something.

 

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Sorry buddy, you're not gonn'a get much torque out of a B16 block. Do an LS/VTEC with your LS block. Then you'll have something. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Go out and explore some more options. This is not true.

Tech43 sells a LS stroker piston kit for use with a LS crank/rods in B16a blocks

 

im shooting for some tq in my b16

my setup is as follows
b17 crank and rods
jdm itr pistons
milled 20 tho
flat valves
omnipower valvetrain
buddy club spec 3+ cams
tuned itb length
hondata s200

i'd be happy if i make 130 tq
the compression is around 11.5-8:1

 

b16a = "turboless turbo lag" lol

there's a kit that someone was selling on here.....with your b16a block, they sell the special custom pistons with rods, all you'll have to get is a 89mm stroke ls crank and you'll have a 2.0L motor. How's that for torque?

 

i saw that thread, but i wonder if that would be a clearance problem sense the b16 deck hight is shorter then the ls. Would the pistons stick out of the block? That would cause a problem, i dont know much about it, exept that it is a great idea 4 some 1 build a sleeper. But i think iam just gonna boost the block, rods, pistons and a block gaurd should be good 4 now, until i could build my head.

 

no that setup works, or it wouldn't be sold. They're custom pistons, so they don't pop out the top of the block, and into the head .. i think it's cause of the raised wrist pins? Don't quote me though

 

Im using a B16 block with a GSR head, cams and intake manifold. When the IAB's were working, the torque was there. Since I don't plan on revving past 8k, I don't need a manifold that flows better than the dual runner GSR higher up, so im set. You may have different goals, though, so the GSR head idea may be limiting.

Anyway...things that make torque
-manifold design
-compression
-displacement.

go for it.

 

yeah, i figured a gsr would b better. Cause of the squared chambers in the head, along wit the raised compresion. Plus there supposed 2 b better for mid range power, wit a good pnp and some ctr cams, it should make some decent power.

 

most people will say p72

 

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Im experiencing some weird power delivery issues at low RPM at light throttle. I thought it was the timing, but they are all dead on. It may be the cylinder filling properties from the two engines clashing together, in any case, my car gets the Hondata tuned this week, ill see if that clears up the mystery problem.

B16a2 with a GSR head yields 10.4xxx:1 compression, that helps out a bit as well.

 

from what i've heard stroke will give you some but bore is the key to torque. see what you can go over on the cylinders. you can run 0.00 deck height with a stroker but you need to cut in some deep valve reliefs or risk interference. other than that porting and a good 3 angle valve job will help power you in the revs

 

what if u were 2 put a gsr crank wit internals? Would it still pop ot and hit the head? I never got the whole decking issue, and i herds its $$$$$. I got a friend that works at a parts store that sid he could get me parts 4 cheap, may b just build 4 boost? Don't know yet.

 

You can use an LS crank and rods, with the Tech34 "stroker" kit .. but you can't use a gsr.

 

More displacment = More torque, a good header can help too.

 

iam just gona build 4 boost, thanks 4 all the help though.

 

have a question about the stroker kit wit the ls crank, would that b close 2 a b20 vtec, cause i got a deal on a b20 block. But if the kit puts out the same as a b20 vtec then ill stick wit that.

 

simple solution.........LS with boost. done.

 

I vote for a 2 layer head gasket for a little bump in compression without missing with pistons or milling the head
http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...b43dd