effects of lightweight flywheel and racing clutch on daily driving???
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what are the positive and negitive affects of having a lightweight flywheel and a racing clutch on a daily driver?
would it be better to get OEM clutch and flywheel if i'm driving it daily?
would it be better to get OEM clutch and flywheel if i'm driving it daily?
sorta....depending on the clutch you get, varries on how much it will change the daily driving. Honestly man, if you dont mind shifting today in traffic, the aftermarket one wont be that much of a change. I wouldnt really worry about it. Only thing will be the clutch peddle will be a bit stiffer, and of course it will engage more harshly, but just things you can get used to pretty quickly.
revs will be quicker going up and down with a lightened flywheel. So it might be weird at first, but it's not something impossible to get used to.
I have had my 8 lb flywheel and organic clutch on the car for a few months now. I love it. The hardest thing to get used to is slipping the clutch a little more from a stop, but the shifts are more crisp, and I really can't tell a difference in the clutch pedal...I guess I have already gotten used to it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LowFlyin’ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The hardest thing to get used to is slipping the clutch a little more from a stop</TD></TR></TABLE>
when you say "slipping it out" do you mean pulling your foot out?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">revs will be quicker going up and down with a lightened flywheel. So it might be weird at first, but it's not something impossible to get used to.</TD></TR></TABLE>
does that affect idle in any way or something?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00LudeLover »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">clutch peddle will be a bit stiffer, and of course it will engage more harshly, but just things you can get used to pretty quickly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
stiffer like harder to push in right?
thanks guys
you're all helpful.
when you say "slipping it out" do you mean pulling your foot out?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">revs will be quicker going up and down with a lightened flywheel. So it might be weird at first, but it's not something impossible to get used to.</TD></TR></TABLE>
does that affect idle in any way or something?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00LudeLover »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">clutch peddle will be a bit stiffer, and of course it will engage more harshly, but just things you can get used to pretty quickly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
stiffer like harder to push in right?
thanks guys
you're all helpful.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ralpheyizzle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
when you say "slipping it out" do you mean pulling your foot out?
does that affect idle in any way or something?
stiffer like harder to push in right?
thanks guys
you're all helpful.
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i dont know about slipping the clutch.... you get used to the new engagment points though.
mine is a lot stiffer then stock. but you get used to it.
IMHO there is no reason not to get one. i sit in stop and go traffic for about 30 min each morning and have just gotten used to it.
when you say "slipping it out" do you mean pulling your foot out?
does that affect idle in any way or something?
stiffer like harder to push in right?
thanks guys
you're all helpful.
</TD></TR></TABLE>i dont know about slipping the clutch.... you get used to the new engagment points though.
mine is a lot stiffer then stock. but you get used to it.
IMHO there is no reason not to get one. i sit in stop and go traffic for about 30 min each morning and have just gotten used to it.
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If you do alot of daily driving and not soo much racing, I recomend getting a stage 2 organic clutch and a "street light" flywheel(around 12 lbs). Full race clutches are just too damn chattery which can take it's toll on your drive line. Also, if you run alot of your accessories like A/C and P/S then you will find that your motor will want to die out when the revs drop with a 8 lb. flywheel.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tomtom211 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you do alot of daily driving and not soo much racing, I recomend getting a stage 2 organic clutch and a "street light" flywheel(around 12 lbs). Full race clutches are just too damn chattery which can take it's toll on your drive line. Also, if you run alot of your accessories like A/C and P/S then you will find that your motor will want to die out when the revs drop with a 8 lb. flywheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a 10 lb and never dies out...
but what everyone should be asking is...what else is done to your car? what are your future plans? and by future in the next year or 5 years?
then we can help you make a better descion on what clutch is good for you, not what is good for us.
i have a 10 lb and never dies out...
but what everyone should be asking is...what else is done to your car? what are your future plans? and by future in the next year or 5 years?
then we can help you make a better descion on what clutch is good for you, not what is good for us.
with my 8lb flywheel and act clutch with xtreme pressure plate, at stops i blip the throttle to around 3k and take off so once the rpms go down from the flywheel, they arent so low that it will stall. A nice flywheel and clutch are fun to drive.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ralpheyizzle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i have an h23 with intake and exhaust and i'm going turbo sometime in the future. maybe a year or so.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delLudeVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with my 8lb flywheel and act clutch with xtreme pressure plate, at stops i blip the throttle to around 3k and take off so once the rpms go down from the flywheel, they arent so low that it will stall. A nice flywheel and clutch are fun to drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well youll need something good if you plan on turboing that soon. get the best deal on a flywhell between 8-12 lb's.
and i just happen to have a act xtream pp and organic street disc with 3k miles on it for sale
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delLudeVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with my 8lb flywheel and act clutch with xtreme pressure plate, at stops i blip the throttle to around 3k and take off so once the rpms go down from the flywheel, they arent so low that it will stall. A nice flywheel and clutch are fun to drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well youll need something good if you plan on turboing that soon. get the best deal on a flywhell between 8-12 lb's.
and i just happen to have a act xtream pp and organic street disc with 3k miles on it for sale
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tomtom211 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... Also, if you run alot of your accessories like A/C and P/S then you will find that your motor will want to die out when the revs drop with a 8 lb. flywheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know what you are talking about, my car has done no such thing.
Ralph, as far as idling is concerned...the lighter flywheel has not affected my idle. It just allows the car to rev faster.
I don't know what you are talking about, my car has done no such thing.
Ralph, as far as idling is concerned...the lighter flywheel has not affected my idle. It just allows the car to rev faster.
there is less room for error with light flywheels. if you dont have good/perfect clutch/gassing from a stop..you will either over rev it and hold the clutch too long and peel out or you will stall, but after a while..you will get used to it..it makes it more of a bitch to drive with a lighter flywheel.
for my personal experience, i stalled out the first couple times i drive because i didnt want to peel out. imo, its a bitch to drive when i dont want to drive. you also have to shift a lot more. clutch engages really close to the floor now..and theres a short distance from it not engaging to engaging...and i think that is about it..since my car is a daily driver, i think i wouldnt have of gotten such a light flywheel..maybe a couple pounds heavier. i dont mind the clutch tho. since im right handed..my right arm/leg is stronger and it helps work out my left leg while i drive it
p.s. i have an act stage 2 clutch and a 10lb flywheel
for my personal experience, i stalled out the first couple times i drive because i didnt want to peel out. imo, its a bitch to drive when i dont want to drive. you also have to shift a lot more. clutch engages really close to the floor now..and theres a short distance from it not engaging to engaging...and i think that is about it..since my car is a daily driver, i think i wouldnt have of gotten such a light flywheel..maybe a couple pounds heavier. i dont mind the clutch tho. since im right handed..my right arm/leg is stronger and it helps work out my left leg while i drive it

p.s. i have an act stage 2 clutch and a 10lb flywheel
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ralpheyizzle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much does a stock flywheel weigh?</TD></TR></TABLE>
About 19.X lbs.
About 19.X lbs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tomtom211 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Also, if you run alot of your accessories like A/C and P/S then you will find that your motor will want to die out when the revs drop with a 8 lb. flywheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My car has never died out with an 8lb fly with power steering and AC, I dont know where you got that info from
My car has never died out with an 8lb fly with power steering and AC, I dont know where you got that info from
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eMpAtHy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is less room for error with light flywheels. if you dont have good/perfect clutch/gassing from a stop..you will either over rev it and hold the clutch too long and peel out or you will stall, but after a while..you will get used to it..it makes it more of a bitch to drive with a lighter flywheel.
for my personal experience, i stalled out the first couple times i drive because i didnt want to peel out. imo, its a bitch to drive when i dont want to drive. you also have to shift a lot more. clutch engages really close to the floor now..and theres a short distance from it not engaging to engaging...and i think that is about it..since my car is a daily driver, i think i wouldnt have of gotten such a light flywheel..maybe a couple pounds heavier. i dont mind the clutch tho. since im right handed..my right arm/leg is stronger and it helps work out my left leg while i drive it
p.s. i have an act stage 2 clutch and a 10lb flywheel</TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't noticed it being any more difficult to drive with than when my car was stock. Sounds to me like the clutch is what is making it more difficult to drive, not the flywheel.
for my personal experience, i stalled out the first couple times i drive because i didnt want to peel out. imo, its a bitch to drive when i dont want to drive. you also have to shift a lot more. clutch engages really close to the floor now..and theres a short distance from it not engaging to engaging...and i think that is about it..since my car is a daily driver, i think i wouldnt have of gotten such a light flywheel..maybe a couple pounds heavier. i dont mind the clutch tho. since im right handed..my right arm/leg is stronger and it helps work out my left leg while i drive it

p.s. i have an act stage 2 clutch and a 10lb flywheel</TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't noticed it being any more difficult to drive with than when my car was stock. Sounds to me like the clutch is what is making it more difficult to drive, not the flywheel.
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My car has never died out with an 8lb fly with power steering and AC, I dont know where you got that info from</TD></TR></TABLE>
I got that info from my car when installed my JUN flywheel. The revs drop faster with a lightened flywheel and more soo when it has drag placed on it by accessorries. Perhaps the flywheel just compounded the IAC problem on my car, I dunno, but it did make the problem worse once installed.
My car has never died out with an 8lb fly with power steering and AC, I dont know where you got that info from</TD></TR></TABLE>
I got that info from my car when installed my JUN flywheel. The revs drop faster with a lightened flywheel and more soo when it has drag placed on it by accessorries. Perhaps the flywheel just compounded the IAC problem on my car, I dunno, but it did make the problem worse once installed.
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