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Old 07-22-2019, 10:43 AM
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Im building a Lsv Turbo high compression build. B16 head b18b block. Cheap $500 dna turba kit. My questions are will I have piston to valve clearance issues? (have piston Specs if needed) Sparke plug gapping? How thick of a oil can/should I run? Would I need just the main caps to run a girdle or a vtec crank as well? Upgrades are
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Stage 3 obx cams
Obx adjustable cam gears
Skunk 2 vtec solenoid
Skunk 2 4 bar map
Stock everything else. Plan to up grade later.
Block -
Bored to 82mm
No name rebuild kit
Manly rods
CP high compression pistons
Gsr water pump
Stock everything else. Plan to upgrade later.
Fueling -
1000cc RC injectors
255 walbro fuel pump
Stainless braided fuel line
Plan to upgrade later.
(Twin pumps? Big single? Or in tank and under car pump?)
Ecu -
Hondata s200
Using stock engine harness
Turbo kit -
Dna little 50/50 turba
2.5in piping to a 3in ended intercooler
Xs power vband ramhorn header
Obx vband 44mm waste gate
Bov that came with kit
Down pipe undecided
Will upgrade later what is needed

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Default re: Setup concerns:. LS/VTEC Turbo High Compression Build pendiing

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will I have piston to valve clearance issues? (have piston Specs if needed) You will need to degree your cams.

Sparke plug gapping? I've seen a lot of people run between 0.020 - 0.028. I'm assuming you have stock ignition system? That makes a difference.

How thick of a oil can/should I run? This depends on your bearing clearances.

Would I need just the main caps to run a girdle or a vtec crank as well? I'm unsure on this one, and will defer to those who know.
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@DaX yes stock Ignition system.
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You'll need to realign-home the mains for your girdle. Although from what I'm seeing, you won't need the girdle at all.

Hondata S200 will have big difficulty running RC Rochester /Lucas injectors of that size. Horrible, horrible drivability
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Hondata S200 will have big difficulty running RC Rochester /Lucas injectors of that size. Horrible, horrible drivability
So I should change brand? Or get s300? I do want to run 2200cc eventually
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id get away from the s200 and go s300. I do have 2200's for a deal pm if interested. you don't need a gridle don't need the big cams or the high comp. 10:1 is most id run. no mention of fuel being used. half parts are nice and good the other half seem way off
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if you have the stock b16 cams they would be much better then the obx as they eat up cam lobes.
id get a walbro 450 with relay kit. ditch the stock banjo hose from filter to rail to help increase fuel flow to your 1000s. id get a aem adjustable fuel regulator to get fuel pressure set right.
is that a type o ? your intercooler has 3" in/outlets and your piping is 2" not 2.5"? id fix that.
down pipe with that little turbo could be fine at 2.5" or 3"
im sure youll be over that 50/60 turbo as im sure your saying its a 50 trim or 50mm that's little. it will have allot of torque but not going to have much top end.
what cc are the piston dome? what the compression your piston and head giving you? have you called your piston company to find out if the crown is thick enough to handle a good amount of boost?
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@BoostHatchFreak it will be 12:3:1
Cc is 7.7
Yes i meant 50/50
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@BoostHatchFreak it will be 12:3:1
Cc is 7.7
Yes i meant 50/50
That compression is really not a good idea for a street car. At all. You're just going to retard timing as though it is much lower. This is the wrong piston ...period
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That compression is really not a good idea for a street car. At all. You're just going to retard timing as though it is much lower. This is the wrong piston ...period

It can be turned just not ideal?
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It can be turned just not ideal?
It can, but it won't be easy. Not in the slightest. Must run high knock resistant fuel at all times
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It can, but it won't be easy. Not in the slightest. Must run high knock resistant fuel at all times
Compression that high, C16 can be used daily!! If ya got THAT kinda money. Lol!
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mite as well sell the tubro kit and run it na and shoot for 220 useable whp
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mite as well sell the tubro kit and run it na and shoot for 220 useable whp
I plan to get suspension and tyres. A fun drag/track car. But thats not a bad idea to be honest.
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I plan to get suspension and tyres. A fun drag/track car. But thats not a bad idea to be honest.
Not a bad idea at all. Especially with that compression.
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Should be okay to tune on E98 at ~120 octane. Just buy drums of it.
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Should be okay to tune on E98 at ~120 octane. Just buy drums of it.
Yes thats the plan only 3 or 4 locations in Mississippi. And the closest is a hour or so away. So im definitely buying a big drum and buy $100 - 150 at a time.
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I know stock or low compression is proven and the safest way but....thats boring I want to be different. Plus different fuels and need knowledge of tuning makes it possible. But if it fails I have all this info from you all to do it.
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I know stock or low compression is proven and the safest way but....thats boring I want to be different. Plus different fuels and need knowledge of tuning makes it possible. But if it fails I have all this info from you all to do it.
No.you're going too extreme in the other direction. You don't have to go to 9.0:1 either. Just relax and choose the turbo based upon the purpose. The rest will take care of itself
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No.you're going too extreme in the other direction. You don't have to go to 9.0:1 either. Just relax and choose the turbo based upon the purpose. The rest will take care of itself
I see. Too much compression. So 11 would be the limit?
Any ideas on size turba?
The ultimate goal is 1150hp but I know I cant afford that. 500hp would be nice. I want to get another tune of it at 300hp for when I want to drive it around.
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I see. Too much compression. So 11 would be the limit?
Any ideas on size turba?
The ultimate goal is 1150hp but I know I cant afford that. 500hp would be nice. I want to get another tune of it at 300hp for when I want to drive it around.
Compression too high and you lose margin of error for tuning.. Compression too low and the car drives like a turd out of boost. Good range is 9.0:1-11.0:1. Lower compression will allow you to run a couple extra lbs of boost easily to compensate that power loss. Higher compression helps with spool onset and recovery.
I'm about just over stock at 9.3:1 and the car feels pretty good out of boost, even with a stock flywheel.
For your goal, you'll want a turbo that flows about 60lb/min.
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For your goal, you'll want a turbo that flows about 60lb/min.[/QUOTE]

Fam thats a expensive tubra
Garrett GTX3071R GenII Turbo
With all the goodies its $2700
It twin scroll better than ball bearing?
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