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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 05:48 AM
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ALO with Marquez. Decent form for a 4wheeler.
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Originally Posted by Toto Blessed the rains down in Africa Wolff
"The first [path] is to consider having a number one and a number two," he said,

"A bit like Ferrari during the [Michael] Schumacher and [Felipe] Massa era.

"That is, hire a driver that guarantees points for the constructors' [championship].

"The second hypothesis is to promote our young drivers, Ocon or Werhlein.

"After all, other teams have given a chance to youngsters like [Max] Verstappen and [Stoffel] Vandoorne.

"The third path is to get back on the market in order to find another top driver.

"On Monday I will be in Brackley and I will a have meeting with Ron Meadows, Andrew Shovlin and a group of top-level engineers, and we'll start working to find the best solution.

"It's a new and exciting challenge. After all, even if we have won 19 races, this has been a really complicated season, full of hurdles."
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I'm sure that JPM can win if he was in the car next year even though it will never happen.
Old Dec 4, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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What other top drivers are even available? I think Pascal gets the seat. Or Mercedes will surprise us.
Old Dec 4, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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Does Susie have a Super License? I seem to remember being close in lap times to her teammates when she drove in practice. I'm sure the team and sport would get lots of exposure. Who knows, she can make F1 more popular.
Old Dec 4, 2016 | 12:00 PM
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Ferrari F1 cars at Daytona (action starts around 8:30, bunch of garage stuff before that):
Old Dec 4, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Outrun
Does Susie have a Super License? I seem to remember being close in lap times to her teammates when she drove in practice. I'm sure the team and sport would get lots of exposure. Who knows, she can make F1 more popular.
She's pregnant, so there's that.
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Damn it Toto. Is that why Rita is gone?
Old Dec 4, 2016 | 05:55 PM
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http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...rosberg-retire

Nico Rosberg has retired with immediate effect, just a few days after clinching the world title for the first time. In his touching retirement announcement he called that achievement his mountain and now it was conquered it was time to step down. It’s an admirable attitude that tells of the same inner security that played such a significant part in his winning of the championship, 11-years into his F1 career.

At 31 years old, a married father, his achievement came at the perfect time for him to be able to move onwards to the next stage of his life with barely a backwards glance. A less well-balanced, more intense, man would find it much more difficult to walk away from F1’s best drive.

Rosberg is a very normal, well-balanced guy, totally at ease in his skin, seeing not the trappings of fame but the traps.

So, standing in the immigration queue in Houston as we were on our way to Austin, I watched as he happily chatted to fans who approached him for selfies. Their snap taken, most of them would be embarrassed, not wanting to impose on him any further – even as he was engaging them in casual conversation, delaying their withdrawal. ‘Look, I’m just normal,’ he was almost explicitly saying.

That normality has sometimes worked against him as a racing driver – especially in the machinations between the team and the mercurial Lewis Hamilton. Being unreasonable is sometimes what allows a competitor to prevail – and Rosberg has always been a very reasonable, rational person. That adrenaline-fuelled, ego-driven instant competitive response seen in many of the top sportsmen in times of maximum stress, has never really been apparent with Nico. Which probably makes him a better-balanced human being, but has worked against him when up against Hamilton in the same team.

“That’s out of order,” said Nico in Bahrain 2014 when Hamilton closed the door very firmly, running him out of road on the outside of turn four there. Well, it may have been by any normal standards. But by those of a team-mate fighting you for the world title? No, it wasn’t. And it escalated from there, and the more it did so – Hungary that year, then Spa – the more it left Nico out on a limb, struggling to react not like a normal person but as a ruthlessly competitive animal. Trying to act in the team’s best interests and finding himself not backed up by the team when the decisive moments came. He was a chastened, less feisty performer for the rest of 2014 after Spa and into ’15. It was only really when Hamilton banged wheels with him in turn one at Austin last year that he really seemed to come out fighting.



There was a lot going on in those last few races of 2015 to muddy the competitive waters – the reconfiguration of the car in light of the new Pirelli directives on pressures and cambers, Hamilton’s post-title celebrations, official and unofficial – but Rosberg’s belligerent response to Austin was probably a factor in his soundly beating his team-mate in the last few races. He carried the attitude into this season, though it took until Barcelona for he and Hamilton to get wheel-to-wheel enough for it to become apparent. He had the crash he was always going to need to have to prevent Hamilton’s bullying from prevailing. It may have earned him censure from the team, but, critically, he was mentally ready for that this time. He’d become tougher all-round. A few races later, in Austria, it happened again. No surrender. He’d drawn the line twice. He’d be prepared to draw it again. It never came to that, of course, and Hamilton’s Sepang engine blow-up ensured Nico no longer needed to actually race him; he could simply out-point him by following him.

Then the controversial finale, Hamilton backing him up into the Ferraris and Red Bulls, Nico keeping control of his emotions, doing exactly the right thing. Maybe the prospect of doing it all over again, at such intensity, was just too much. Maybe just that picture versus the picture of happy days on the beach, with wife and young daughter and with financial security already his, was just too easy a choice. For such a reasonable man.
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McLaren confident Fernando Alonso won't leave for Mercedes | F1 News

We all agree that Alonso probably has a performance based get-out clause with McLaren, right? Would he just throw away all the work he's put in with McLaren and go up against Hamilton again?

Even if he were to join, he'd have to outperform Lewis who has been able to gel with the team for the last 4 years (Rosberg had been there 7 years). Would he be better off in leaving his hope in McLaren producing a fast car than in his own ability to fight Lewis heads up?
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On the other hand...in a career defined by moving to the "wrong place at the wrong time" since 2008, this is his first chance to get a seat in a almost guaranteed championship contending car...if he truly had this opportunity but didn't take it, would he regret it for the rest of his life?
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Would he just throw away all the work he's put in with McLaren and go up against Hamilton again?
?? Yes he would. He's not scurred of Lady Hamilton....but I don't think Merc wants to pay that much for him. What do I know though.

Button would be cheaper and can work with Lewis without drama - and he could do a 1-year deal until another driver is available that Merc wouldn't have to buy out of a contract.
Old Dec 5, 2016 | 07:11 AM
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I don't know if Button really wants to drive again, he seemed kind of done with it all...esp toward the end of this season.
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Originally Posted by BauleyCivic
I don't know if Button really wants to drive again, he seemed kind of done with it all...esp toward the end of this season.
He wasn't competing at the front of the grid doe AND he's already driven for the team won a title there when it was Brawn.

I personally think Merc should let Pascal have the seat and see if he can do what Max did at RBR or Lewis did at Mclaren - which was exceed expectations. Bottas is a boring choice IMO, but one that would put money in Toto's pocket.

2018 should be interesting as Vettel and Alonso will be out of contract.
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Next season Jenson Button will not be involved in Formula One for the first time since 1999, and the first time in his adult life, after agreeing a two-year extension to his McLaren contract that, bizarrely, sees the Brit doing everything he wants in 2017 but drive a McLaren-Honda.

The McLaren announced their 2017 driver lineup in a hastily arranged press conference on the Saturday of the Italian Grand Prix, and Button, who will turn 37 early next year, will now move into an ambassadorial role for the team, including simulator work and a more relaxed schedule. Hot prospect Stoffel Vandoorne will join Fernando Alonso in racing for McLaren.

McLaren themselves have described the switch as “an innovative three-driver strategy” for 2017 and 2018, stating that Jenson will be called upon to race next season “if circumstances require it” – arguably code for “we’ve got a backup if Fernando doesn’t like the car” – and that he’ll be back in a seat in 2018.
The bolded part is interesting. Jenson is contracted through 2018...would this confirm Alonso has a get out clause and Jenson is the back up in case that clause gets triggered??? The sort of back up plan Merc would have wanted in place had they known Nico was going to bolt on them the moment he became champ.
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Who would have been the back-up plan for Merc? MSC?
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A Schumacher in the car would delight me but the young Mick is not ready. Pretty good odds that Merc want him in their car in a few years.

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Pascal says he is ready to drive for Merc. But the question is, is Merc ready for Pascal?
Old Dec 5, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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The true question: is the pressure of the Merc drive too high for Pascals?
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F1 does not exist in a vacuum. It would be a fluid move for the young Pascal.
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the pressure could kill ole Pascal
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I believe the saying goes, If you can't stand the heat, don't come.
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If there's one thing Rosberg taught me about Formula 1 it is that Hamilton is a chav.



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