LightningTeg's 600whp LS to LS-VTEC Build Legacy
Doesnt sound great. Hopefully you wont be down long!
Did you ever get around to some pics of your new stud/nut set up for your mani?
Did you ever get around to some pics of your new stud/nut set up for your mani?
Seems to be holding up lol.
Nothing back down, and I have nots on three of the bolts and not the 4th one.
The next manifold won't have that problem. All v-band all the way around.
Nice numbers and runs LightningTeg, seriously making me think about ditching the kraftwerks supercharger for my k20 Teg and going turbo. Any info on that black civic coupe that shoots the fireball outta the exhaust in that video on your channel with the k20 and 6266 making 550hp? I'm scared to turbo it because I know these 6spd trans are like glass:p
Nice numbers and runs LightningTeg, seriously making me think about ditching the kraftwerks supercharger for my k20 Teg and going turbo. Any info on that black civic coupe that shoots the fireball outta the exhaust in that video on your channel with the k20 and 6266 making 550hp? I'm scared to turbo it because I know these 6spd trans are like glass:p
It also helps to have a turbo/manifold combo that builds boost a little slower and doesn't come into its power super quick and sudden. But if you start adding power and abuse the tranny like you can with a B series box, your going to trash it quick for sure.
The K trannys can last under boosted power for quite some time as long as you use careful shifting manners. We've seen them with just a diff installed survive 600whp as long as there's not a lot of launching on slicks, flat foot shifts, etc.
It also helps to have a turbo/manifold combo that builds boost a little slower and doesn't come into its power super quick and sudden. But if you start adding power and abuse the tranny like you can with a B series box, your going to trash it quick for sure.
It also helps to have a turbo/manifold combo that builds boost a little slower and doesn't come into its power super quick and sudden. But if you start adding power and abuse the tranny like you can with a B series box, your going to trash it quick for sure.
Nice numbers and runs LightningTeg, seriously making me think about ditching the kraftwerks supercharger for my k20 Teg and going turbo. Any info on that black civic coupe that shoots the fireball outta the exhaust in that video on your channel with the k20 and 6266 making 550hp? I'm scared to turbo it because I know these 6spd trans are like glass:p
The black civic in the video above goes through a few 5th gears every year lol
Oh I see, the car would only be used for Street driving and road course racing, well I was looking at the 3076R so that throws building boost slow out the window lol. BTW is there any kind of car scene in Delaware? I just moved to Dover a few weeks ago and I see you're from Newark.
I first read the bad news on LS1tech...been there man, just got my LSV (PR3) back together after a 6 mo. down.
It made 7 yrs. and several high-heat incidences, but @ a weaksauce 300hp, nothing like your Champion.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right?
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?)
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench?
Second round on the studs?
And was the head surfaced?
Just interested in the post-mortem and noting results.
I know it's irritating when your Rod is illin', man
Chill, swing back to work and be productive,
You'll get it going in time, good as new!
Awesome battle viddies, Thank You!
It made 7 yrs. and several high-heat incidences, but @ a weaksauce 300hp, nothing like your Champion.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right?
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?)
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench?
Second round on the studs?
And was the head surfaced?
Just interested in the post-mortem and noting results.

I know it's irritating when your Rod is illin', man
Chill, swing back to work and be productive,
You'll get it going in time, good as new!
Awesome battle viddies, Thank You!
I first read the bad news on LS1tech...been there man, just got my LSV (PR3) back together after a 6 mo. down.
It made 7 yrs. and several high-heat incidences, but @ a weaksauce 300hp, nothing like your Champion.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right?
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?)
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench?
Second round on the studs?
And was the head surfaced?
Just interested in the post-mortem and noting results.
I know it's irritating when your Rod is illin', man
Chill, swing back to work and be productive,
You'll get it going in time, good as new!
Awesome battle viddies, Thank You!
It made 7 yrs. and several high-heat incidences, but @ a weaksauce 300hp, nothing like your Champion.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right?
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?)
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench?
Second round on the studs?
And was the head surfaced?
Just interested in the post-mortem and noting results.

I know it's irritating when your Rod is illin', man
Chill, swing back to work and be productive,
You'll get it going in time, good as new!
Awesome battle viddies, Thank You!
I first read the bad news on LS1tech...been there man, just got my LSV (PR3) back together after a 6 mo. down.
It made 7 yrs. and several high-heat incidences, but @ a weaksauce 300hp, nothing like your Champion.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right?
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?)
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench?
Second round on the studs?
And was the head surfaced?
Just interested in the post-mortem and noting results.
I know it's irritating when your Rod is illin', man
Chill, swing back to work and be productive,
You'll get it going in time, good as new!
Awesome battle viddies, Thank You!
It made 7 yrs. and several high-heat incidences, but @ a weaksauce 300hp, nothing like your Champion.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right?
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?)
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench?
Second round on the studs?
And was the head surfaced?
Just interested in the post-mortem and noting results.

I know it's irritating when your Rod is illin', man
Chill, swing back to work and be productive,
You'll get it going in time, good as new!
Awesome battle viddies, Thank You!
From my personal build experience with my B20V, use the head gasket to match the head you are using. VTEC head, VTEC head gasket. I did not personally use the copper spray, and didn't have any leaking issues at ~450whp, but cannot speak for 600+. As for how to torque, as always use a quality calibrated TQ wrench and check everything twice. ARP head studs are a must, and make sure to use a good amount of their supplied lube.
Iirc, you use copper spray, right? - Yes
What HG did u use, LS or GSR? (U did use a GSR head right, not PR3?) - VTEC
How did you measure torque? Trust your wrench? - Yup
Second round on the studs? - Nope lol. Never have. I didnt on my LS and never had a problem. Will recheck this weekend
And was the head surfaced? - yes
I did discover a semi major issue this weekend though. The car is still pushing some coolant into the reservoir under high boost. I'm thinking probably getting a little head lift. I can get about 3-4 good pulls before the tank is filled and the cooling system wont cool back down for a few minutes.
I need to do some more tests but car will probably be down for a bit as I'm a little exhausted and need to put some OT in at work.
I need to do some more tests but car will probably be down for a bit as I'm a little exhausted and need to put some OT in at work.
Yeah cant afford to keep spending money on it. Its the nickle and dime stuff that kills ya.
Wife and I want a kid, she needs a new car, I want a house and I've got a wedding this october lol.
Wife and I want a kid, she needs a new car, I want a house and I've got a wedding this october lol.
I meant to ask if studs were re-used, btw, not if re-torqued....I just make mental notes of factors when someone experiences failure of whatever so I can try to avoid. 
What kind of torque wrench?
I use LS gasket and remove rivet.
Used this
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/additio...rench-testing/
I doubt that any problem you have was torque-related, just chatting and sharing info here.

What kind of torque wrench?
I use LS gasket and remove rivet.
Used this

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/additio...rench-testing/
I doubt that any problem you have was torque-related, just chatting and sharing info here.
Last edited by B and B; May 15, 2016 at 09:57 AM.
I know where you are coming from!! Welcome to the club lol. Going through the exact same thing!!!
I checked the head studs, torque was still in spec. Flushed the old coolant out and found head gasket material (bigger pieces) floating around so she definitely needs a gasket lol.
Looks like the root cause was too much timing. I took out about 4 degrees and the plugs were better looking and the car got faster. Ended up running another H/C vette later that day (and had lots of other potential races) but I called it quits so I wouldn't risk hurting the motor.
Looks like the root cause was too much timing. I took out about 4 degrees and the plugs were better looking and the car got faster. Ended up running another H/C vette later that day (and had lots of other potential races) but I called it quits so I wouldn't risk hurting the motor.
Whats the specs/ tranny on the red one. Mite have been different results without passenger in the red one
His GF is probably 100lbs and hes not a big guy either lol. But maybe.








