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94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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Default 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

its from a 94 civic hatch..

please help me look for pinouts..

the ones on google are different,

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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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What's the difference between your C419 pinout and the service manual diagram pinout?
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 11:26 PM
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

it doesn't show the details, just the color.

it doesnt show where the wire goes

example


starter
vss
tach signal
ecu power
etc..
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

Where did you find those diagrams that you have? I've never been able to find the pinouts of the junction connectors for 92-95 Civics.

And did you look up C302? That's what C419 connects to. I have a list of what components this connectors goes to, just not broken down by wire colour.
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 07:06 AM
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

its from a 92-95 civic shop manual..

cant find pinouts for c302 either..

i thinks no one really has it yet..

here's a similar thread

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...-plug-1510153/
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 07:34 AM
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

If necessary, you could verify or refute hunches about where each wire goes by doing continuity tests.
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 08:24 AM
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

Originally Posted by deschlong
Where did you find those diagrams that you have? I've never been able to find the pinouts of the junction connectors for 92-95 Civics.

And did you look up C302? That's what C419 connects to. I have a list of what components this connectors goes to, just not broken down by wire colour.
Helms 1992 Honda Civic service manual, first edition.











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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 08:32 AM
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Nice^

Are you able to post high resolution pics of those important diagrams?
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 08:37 AM
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I'll see what I can do. I probably won't have time today, but by next week for sure.

There are about 10 diagrams total. I'll see if I can scan and upload them all.





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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

These diagrams are in the online version of the USDM/CDM manual. I just .... in all the time I've spent poring over this manual over the past 8 years, I've never scrolled to the last two pages where this pinout diagram is. Amazingly, this info isn't contained anywhere else, not even in the Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. Welp, you learn something new every day.

EDIT: I also see errors in that diagram. E.g., C420 is not a 20-pin connector. So, OP, take heed.
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

Originally Posted by deschlong
These diagrams are in the online version of the USDM/CDM manual. I just .... in all the time I've spent poring over this manual over the past 8 years, I've never scrolled to the last two pages where this pinout diagram is. Amazingly, this info isn't contained anywhere else, not even in the Electrical Troubleshooting Manual. Welp, you learn something new every day.
It much easier to find them with the hard copy. They tend to fall out of the back of the manual.

So no need to upload any copies then?





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Originally Posted by eHMxhACk
It much easier to find them with the hard copy. They tend to fall out of the back of the manual.

So no need to upload any copies then?
The mentioned available online versions of the diagrams are low/poor resolution, so it would be awesome if you wouldn't mind creating high resolution versions of the hard copy electrical diagrams you have.
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

Originally Posted by deschlong
EDIT: I also see errors in that diagram. E.g., C420 is not a 20-pin connector. So, OP, take heed.
Helms is funny. Somebody forgot to proofread it.








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The mentioned available online versions of the diagrams are low/poor resolution, so it would be awesome if you wouldn't mind creating high resolution versions of the hard copy electrical diagrams you have.
I get back on Monday. I'll see what FedEx Office can do.





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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

C418 connects to C301, and C419 connects to C302. At least, according to other pages in the Helms (eg., see OP's first post). So, that diagram is off, sadly.

What this means is that OP should be looking at C420 in the diagram, since this is actually C419 and it is mislabelled. (Additionally, I know that C301/C418 is a brown connector, while C302/C419 is grey, as in OP's pic.)

Anyway, here are the components that both C301/C418 and C302/C419 connects to (from 1994 ETM):
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I get back on Monday. I'll see what FedEx Office can do.
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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Default re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

thanks, can you upload a scanned version?
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Default Re: 94 civic hatch - need pinouts for connector c419

bump any one found the pin outs so far ?
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