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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Glad the speedo works in that vid...
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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blox cam users chim in! i wana see some dyno sheets
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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i made 207 and 135lbs, on a dynojet
1.8 gsr build, non ported head,
have also used the bs with great success
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HAMSTERHONDA
i made 206 and 135lbs, on a dynojet
1.8 gsr build, non ported head,
have also used the bs with great success
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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not bad wat c.r and fuel did you use

wat blox cams did u use also
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mar778c
Sorry, but you are thinking of someone else. If you search under my username, you will find the thread.
Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR

Mar778c's Blox C's broke (1 cam) and he had no luck or support from Blox even though he could prove that it was a casting flaw and not installation or any other problem. Prior to those cams he ran the Blox A's for a long period of time without a problem.

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This was mentioned to me a while back when I made a thread askin blox valvetrain experiences, you posted in it too don't know if it was a mixup
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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This was mentioned to me a while back when I made a thread askin blox valvetrain experiences, you posted in it too don't know if it was a mixup
I spoke to Marcell in person about this, back then and posted what I understood happened. Obviously if Marcell says something different, then I must have misunderstood and will apologize.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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Its not a big deal just had me scratchin my head a lil wanted to make sure


Still won't buy any internals from them after the "uhhhhhhh" I got in my first phonecall with them

Now that I think about it a should've recorded all my attempts to request tech info from blox, would've gave everyone a good laugh
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
I spoke to Marcell in person about this, back then and posted what I understood happened. Obviously if Marcell says something different, then I must have misunderstood and will apologize.
Np, I have to say that it was more than a single phone call. So in that respect, I guess I had to do a bit of back and forth with them but it was nothing that I would not expect.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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They still suck lol
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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there customer support sucks from wat everyone says but there product isnt bad if u got sumone that can degree cams foreal, and tune good iv seen high hp numbers with blox cams
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xbigpitax
there customer support sucks from wat everyone says but there product isnt bad if u got sumone that can degree cams foreal, and tune good iv seen high hp numbers with blox cams
If you understand what Blox does and where they get their cam designs from, you'll understand why they make power. It's kind of like...if I go and robb a bank, and everyone says, "hey that guys got some money"....you'll know why.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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Heres my setup and dyno sheet:

bottom end:
.25 over PR3 pistons
LS rods
ARP rod bolts and head studs
ITR water pump
ITR oil pump
Golden Eagle LS/Vtec conversion kit
Honda OEM bearings

top end:
GSR Head
Blox dual valve springs
Blox retainers
Blox Spec C cams
Blox intake manifold
Blox 70mm throttle body
RC 440cc injectors
AEM fuel rail and pressure regulator


**The only problem I had was that Blox didn't supply me with the information to degree the cams. When I called them, they also had no idea and said to just "put them at 0,0" on the cam gears. So, I think i might have been able to squeeze some more power out of them if they were degree'd. Decent cams for money and sound nice too, but I wont buy another set just because Blox doesn't know their *** from their elbow.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
If you understand what Blox does and where they get their cam designs from, you'll understand why they make power. It's kind of like...if I go and robb a bank, and everyone says, "hey that guys got some money"....you'll know why.
Coincidence this is the individual that convinced me not to go with blox

Perfect way of saying it SiR
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by N/A
Coincidence this is the individual that convinced me not to go with blox

Perfect way of saying it SiR
are you sure that you understand why he recommended not to go with them?

making power is one thing, customer service is another. kind of like a positive and a negative does not make a positive
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 06:16 PM
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to the guys having issues with degreeing the cams, if everyone knows that the cams are copies of skunk or so on, why not just use the skunk settings...? and save your self the phone call.. revLimit did you try and play with the cams at all on the dyno? to try to squeeze that extra power?
you get what you pay for..its as simple as that,
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HAMSTERHONDA
to the guys having issues with degreeing the cams, if everyone knows that the cams are copies of skunk or so on, why not just use the skunk settings...? and save your self the phone call.. revLimit did you try and play with the cams at all on the dyno? to try to squeeze that extra power?
you get what you pay for..its as simple as that,
Those Blox cams maybe some type of replica of another cam design, but who's to say its a direct copy without definite proof? I heard they were Skunk2 replicas as well as Jun 3 replicas. I didnt want to take any chances and degree them to specs from another cam design and risk problems. I left them where they were at 0,0 and they seem to work fine.

No, according to the tuner, he didnt play with the cam gears because he said the gains would be "negligible" and a "waste of our time."

Granted they are a copy of someone else's design, and I understand the whole "get what you pay for" mentality, but these cams make power. If someone could do the research (in this case, it shouldn't be a customer, it should be Blox) and find out the degree specs, it would put alot of problems to rest. And while I agree with 00Red_SiR, they are still a good choice for people on a budget. I definitely wont be going back to them for another set if I decide to change up my build, just want to make that clear. But until that time, I dont really have any issues with them and can't complain.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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the lobe profiles may be a copy but if they were smart they changed the centerlines so its more of a drop in cam....why poeple who make cams put wacky centerlines is beyond me.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Wen I was on the dyno my tuner put my intake cam 2 degrees advanced and 1 degree on my exhaust. This car is hanging with k Teggys and I pulled a b20v w/ pro2's
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Any charts?
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I have also heard that Blox does no R&D and just copies every other successful company lol. Honestly Blox is CRAP. Buy a real set of cams.







I hope you and the other ppl have used these cams before to be discredting them....skunk 2 copied jun 3's vtec lobe and I don't see anyone talkin about that. To the OP, I hope u have good results with these cams...there is nothing wrong with blox cams....they make power regardless of what other ppl's opinions are. I will eventually go with these or the bumpstix cams...
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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I hope you and the other ppl have used these cams before to be discredting them....skunk 2 copied jun 3's vtec lobe and I don't see anyone talkin about that. To the OP, I hope u have good results with these cams...there is nothing wrong with blox cams....they make power regardless of what other ppl's opinions are. I will eventually go with these or the bumpstix cams...
Why are u bumping old threads left n right to run your mouth and try to promote a leech??
Do you have any other purpose here?
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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he does have a point though. although people will argue that s2 does do r&d and creates new products like their pro series cams.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vtecmasta85
I hope you and the other ppl have used these cams before to be discredting them....skunk 2 copied jun 3's vtec lobe and I don't see anyone talkin about that. To the OP, I hope u have good results with these cams...there is nothing wrong with blox cams....they make power regardless of what other ppl's opinions are. I will eventually go with these or the bumpstix cams...
JUN Type 3
INTAKE: Duration - 265.3 @ 1mm, Lift - 12.0 mm
EXHAUST: Duration - 265.3 @ 1mm, Lift - 11.5 mm

Skunk2 Stage 2
INTAKE: Duration - 275 @ 1mm, Lift - 12.4 mm
EXHAUST: Duration - 270 @ 1mm, lift - 11.9 mm

This S2S2 VTEC lobe being a copy of the Jun 3 profile was a longtime piece of misinformation being circulated. The centerlines are also slightly different between the two cams.

Mikey-Spec physically measured the Blox C cams and the Jun 3 cams an they were identical in every way. When installed and dyno'd, there was no difference in the power curves. Skunk did not copy Jun.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by K7-1Ktrevor
he does have a point though. although people will argue that s2 does do r&d and creates new products like their pro series cams.
We all already know blox stuff can be used with success, people don't recommend using them because supporting them is taking away from the industry.

If u fellas look at that guys post he is like starting a holy war for blox around here. He keeps bumping all kinds of random threads just to run his mouth, call everyone nutswingers, and trying to get everyone on the blox bandwagon.

now he is saying skunk copies jun???? Lol someone from skunk should get in here
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