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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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Alright well I bought a boost controller from someone online, and it ended up being a scam. I did the PayPal buyer complaint process and they found it in my favor but they were unable to recover the funds and since they do not guarantee that funds can be recovered from it and blah blah blah.

So I'm not going to be getting my money back from them. He is verified with PayPal, which means that they have his confirmed address and what not. Since I don't have his address or any info on him can I file a small claims against him? Could I somehow force PayPal to give up that information?

Any input would be great guys
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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You gave money to a person that you don't even know their name? address? no info? well you sir are not the smartest person. If you used a credit card to pay by pay-pal call the credit card company, they'll take care of it.
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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Did you pay by credit card? If so, contact the CC company.

Did you ask PayPal for his confirmed address? Since you were in a transaction, maybe they will give it to you.
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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ebay=paypal.. ofcoarse they wont follow through...but their sure happy to get their % from your transaction.
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Yeah I've asked PayPal for his info and they give me the whole privacy yap yap yap



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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Ok, then you used your bank, not the credit card. So nope, youre screwed, you should of got his info.
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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Yeah going to try and get his info either from PayPal, or try to trick him into giving it to me
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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you will never trick me!!!!

errr...

sorry for the bad luck, shady people
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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ive gotten taken on paypal also. and the guy gave me a different address.. and paypal never helped me to try to even catch the ******* scammer soo pay pal get a big from me
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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Well I figure if I can't get PayPal to help, then try to file something in a small claims court or something =\
Yeah I've heard alot of people having problems with PayPal, but there just isn't anyone else to use
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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you cant do crap sorry
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Alright so I got an e-mail back from PayPal after asking them if there is no more they can do here is what I got.

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

I apologize for your frustration in the aftermath of this regrettable
incident.

PayPal has no provision for investigating a disputed transaction after
the disposition of a Buyer Complaint.

If restitution cannot be made even after winning a claim with PayPal,
you may wish to pursue some of the following options:

1) You may take the seller to Small Claims Court.
2) You may consult local law enforcement.
3) You may file a claim with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center
(IFCC), a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation
(FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C)  the web site
address is http://www.ifccfbi.gov

Fraud Links:

Mail Fraud w/ US Postal Service (USPS) also @ 30 days.

http://www.framed.usps.com/postalinspect
ors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm
Or download the PDF file, PS Form 8165 from my "ME" page.

National Fraud Information Center (NFIC)
http://63.222.159.194/repoform.htm

FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC)
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/cf1.asp

The National Consumer Complaint Center for Internet Fraud,
False Advertising and Breached Warranties(NCCC)
http://www.alexanderlaw.com/nccc/cb-ftc.html

CCIPS, Reporting Internet Crime
http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm

Fraud Bureau.com
http://www.fraudbureau.com/database/file5.html

Auctionblacklist.com
http://www.auctionblacklist.com/

International Web Police (IWP)
http://www.InterGOV.org/forms/wp_crimereport.html

International Web Police
http://www.web-police.org/

http://www.scambusters.com/

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Now that's alot of fraud contacts haha. But which ones will actually do something and help me. For some reason I don't think the FBI would be to interested in investageting a $300 online scam.
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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sorry to hear bout that bud
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Wow that sux0rs man.. just hope stuff like that don't happen to me.. but dude how could you just pay a guy without getting his info? Maybe you figured paypal was safe enough? I dunno.. Hope you can get through into getting your money or taking the guy to court or something../
Old Oct 19, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Yeah, well I've had this happen in the past a few times and every time it's happened I have been able to get my money back in full from PayPal. I don't know why this time I can't

Yeah well I at least hope that this makes everyone else a little more careful about buying stuff. Learn from my mistakes!
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