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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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3-4 inch spider web right where the tech sticker will go at the next autocross... haha
One of the cracks is around 10 inches long. Will tech pass that?
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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It depends. If you are a first time autocrosser they may not be too crazy about it. Regulars can get away with alot more. In fact, WRXRacer111 here has a giant crack across his windshield but he is still able to run ProSolos that way.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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I don't recall ever seeing anything in the Solo rules disallowing windsheild cracks - but some tech workers might not like it.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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The cracked windshield on my ITA crx passes tech for road racing. Ain't a small crack either.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Depends on the inspector.

They CAN fail you for it but that doesn't mean they will.

I have failed cars for cracked windshields before but it depends on who it is and how big the crack is.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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it depends on the inspector...

i think if the rest of the car is in good shape, and depending on the location of the crack(s), you may be ok.

that's not for us to decide though
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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thanks all..... turns out I might just get a new one installed by this weekend. $190 w/lifetime warranty aint bad
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depends on the inspector.

They CAN fail you for it but that doesn't mean they will.

I have failed cars for cracked windshields before but it depends on who it is and how big the crack is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wouldnt sweat it.. its a either a rule or not. it shouldnt be if the inspector sees a crack and then judges by the type of car or by whom the person is,at least thats the way it sounds in the above posts.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZUL8R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i wouldnt sweat it.. its a either a rule or not. it shouldnt be if the inspector sees a crack and then judges by the type of car or by whom the person is,at least thats the way it sounds in the above posts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

come on:

Car A: clean, in good shape, looks solid, recently waxed, has 3 inch crack in the bottom left corner of the windshield.

Car B: dirty, tires seem unevenly worn, passenger seat is ripped, rust on the rear wheel wells, has 3 inch crack in the bottom left corner of the windshield.

big difference. the crack in car A could have appeared 2 days before, and he's just waiting for the piece to come in for it to be replaced. Car B could have been cracked for 3 years, and have been waiting to have it's hood opened for that long. you're going to evaluate each car the same? you'd be a real ***** not to let car A run, and you'd be taking a chance letting car B run
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kablamo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you'd be a real ***** not to let car A run, and you'd be taking a chance letting car B run </TD></TR></TABLE>

You must be joking.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZUL8R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldnt sweat it.. its a either a rule or not. it shouldnt be if the inspector sees a crack and then judges by the type of car or by whom the person is,at least thats the way it sounds in the above posts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You must have missed the part where I said I was a tech inspector for both autocrossing and road racing. I have passed and failed cars for cracked windshields in both cases. I am not speaking hypothetically here.

If you were some random person I didn't know, had never met and had a car that was questionable you are damn right I would probably fail you for the crack (since it IS a rule). I have nothing telling me that your car is in safe mechanical condition since I don't know you.

On the flip side - if I know you, have seen your car and the condition you keep it and the only thing wrong with it is the cracked windshield I would let it go.

The idea of tech is to keep the drivers safe. A cracked windshield in itself may not be a big deal but in some cases it is scratching the surface of what else can be found.

I doubt you have been autocrossing for very long so I wouldn't expect you to understand this.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You must be joking.</TD></TR></TABLE>

in a way, hence the why?

i'm just trying to say it depends on more factors than *just* whether or not there is a crack in the windshield...
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Will a cracked windshield fail tech? (kablamo)

So, a cracked windshield will contribute to the failure of an overall, not-very-well-taken-care-of car, but as the only fault, will not usually cause a tech failure. Obviously, there will always be extenuating circumstances. I think I get it.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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Well in that case..... im glad im getting a new one installed today.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPORT INJECTION &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well in that case..... im glad im getting a new one installed today. </TD></TR></TABLE>

couldn't hurt

besides, windshields can be pretty darn cheap...
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPORT INJECTION &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3-4 inch spider web right where the tech sticker will go at the next autocross... haha
One of the cracks is around 10 inches long. Will tech pass that?
thanks.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dave, why didn't you just ask me via IM? As long as it doesn't look like you tried to put your head through the windshield, I would have let it slide for at least the next few events.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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Oh yah... I guess I could have asked you, but we all know how you can be.
New one is installed for $200, im gonna have mad cone vision y0!
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have nothing telling me that your car is in safe mechanical condition since I don't know you.
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Umm, yes you do (at least I hope). You are the tech inspector and it is your responsibility to deem if a car is safe or not--regardless if it is a newb or a veteran.

I really don't see what difference it makes if you know someone or not. It would depend upon placement of the crack and how bad it is, but knowing the person should make little difference IMO. If it breaks while he is on course and he procees to knock out some cornerworkers, it is still a bad situation for everyone.

The other factors on the car should also not dictate if one infraction is weighed heavier or not.

Yes, it is a judgement call--but when in doubt safety should ultimately come first, as I'm sure you know.
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