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The whole promoter/manufacturer/magazine complex surrounding the import industry makes me sick to my stomach.</TD></TR></TABLE>


But it generates much needed money and sponsorship. Remember what you said if you ever ask for sponsorship!

Some are forgetting, that this is a GREAT way to get much needed exposure for a supported car. Sponsors love to see "there" add on your car in a magazine!

 

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The whole promoter/manufacturer/magazine complex surrounding the import industry makes me sick to my stomach.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's all it takes? What about tv evangelists and greenpeace?

 

rr/ax IS a lifestyle in its own. anyone that is serious about rr/ax has to change his/her life around to make it work... what's wrong with using the word "lifestyle" to promote?

 

To each his own. As a future sponsor, it's always nice to see how other racers deny the chance to highlight their sponsors name and/or product. Maybe they don't feel that getting into a magazine is important. While Modified Magazine caters to a different demographics at this moment, they do attract many readers who would like to get into road racing, time attacks, ect. I think current or potential sponsors want to see racers with an open mind.

 

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Here to hoping I can be one of those potential sponsor'ees!

Lets talk Johnny!

 

Modified Magazine is the "Official Promotional Partner" of Redline:Time Attack! There isnt much to read into... ;-)

They dont have EXCLUSIVE coverage rights on the series. I have even discussed our series with GRM and they sound interested in covering it. I have been in communication with 4 magazines other than Modified who are interested in covering our events.

As Chris and I have said before, Redline:Time Attack! is not designed to please 100% of the enthusiasts, racers, and companies out there. Nothing can accomplish that. We wanted to provide an alternative to wheel to wheel racing and the expenses associated with that form of racing. Some teams and drivers will cross over and others will not.

I am a fan of road racing, traveling to Laguna Seca each year to watch ALMS and World Challenge action. How many enthusiasts watch the big boys battle it out on world famous road courses and wish they could do that? There are thousands.... And how many actually have the resources to pull it off? Very few. We feel Redline:Time Attack! provides a nice opportunity/alternative for a wide range of people to compete in a form of road racing. It also provides a very cost effective option for companies to advertise and market their companies to these same enthusiasts.

Nikolas

 

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Here to hoping I can be one of those potential sponsor'ees!

Lets talk Johnny! </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're already on the list.

 

redline time attack = young people lol, magazine coverage, hot chicks,bikini contest LMAO

scca solo I = old dudes, no spectators, no chicks LMAO

haha thats my interpetation of the both lol

 

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scca solo I = old dudes, no spectators, no chicks LMAO

haha thats my interpetation of the both lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you high?

 

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Are you high?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wish...what u got on a gram of kush LMAO......
please dont begin with the **** talking u ******* *******...i was just having fun with it!

 

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scca solo I = old dudes, no spectators, no chicks LMAO

haha thats my interpetation of the both lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

You know there is some truth to this........

It is also interesting how some of the "established racers" in this forum get all worked up when things like "lifestyle", "magazine front page", "girls", etc start getting mixed in.

This may be one reason why club racing is unknown to the world at large even though the same classes have been running for 20+ years while drifting is on ESPN only a few years after catching on in the US.

(Not trying to make any arguments, just observation)

 

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You know there is some truth to this........

It is also interesting how some of the "established racers" in this forum get all worked up when things like "lifestyle", "magazine front page", "girls", etc start getting mixed in.

This may be one reason why club racing is unknown to the world at large even though the same classes have been running for 20+ years while drifting is on ESPN only a few years after catching on in the US.

(Not trying to make any arguments, just observation)</TD></TR></TABLE>

that was my whole point lol......Formula D gets a half an hour every sunday on G4TV.....when have u seen any Honda Challenge, USTCC or any other sanctioned race on tv???

 

sounds just like emra's time trials with weird classes, you get practice sessions and then 2 hot laps at the end of the day, funny thing is people are trying to change that and go toward a mclub style event, with 2 hot laps and a half lap warm up and half lap cool down its hard to get heat into the tires

 

Well, you'll get more then just a few laps. There will be at least two 5 lap time attack runs. On a 4 mile road course, you'll have plenty of time to heat up your tires. You'll also get plenty of practice runs as well. Even if you just wanted to get extra seat time, there will be plenty of track time to be had.

 

after the class break down of street/modified/unlimited how is it seperated? per make/chassis? or what?

 

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ya i'd like to know also. If there is a place for for an H4 car to be competitive, id be interested in doing a few of these. being in the marketing feild, i know my sponsors (not great in number, but great in support) love stuff like magizine coverage.

 

I'm kind of suprised there isn't alot of support here - what redline is doing is not the same as scca ect yes the end result is cars getting timed around a lap but the main difference is in how.

I live in so cal and even though I can see cali speedway from my house on a clear day more often then not seeing race cars on trailers is how I find out about something. That's scca as I've known it for a long time - no exposure no media no hype and as a result drifting is more popular than it should be. Whenever there's a street legal night there theres fliers everywhere the shops all talk about it there is word on the street ect.

What does scca have ? shops battling it out and thereby using it as a means to influence there customers to get involved - no not any place I know of. Even the speed freak program was a weak attempt to reach out to younger people.

Anyway time attack in japan is pretty steep in tradition - all those pimpy 140K drift cars - well usually parked right next to them is 2~3 time attack cars and it breeds all kinds of crazy innovation and just wild ideas that people stuck in a mindset would have never thought of - that as I see it is a good thing - the fact it's all pimpy JDM and kids who would normally spend there allowance on a 240 will be drawn to actually road courses and will be a major leep closer to keeping it off the streets to save up for the next track day - all the shops that have to ride the next jdm thing will have to compete thereby exposing young people especially to something more than initial d - good thing. Especially good is all of us who use zeal or tien suspensions ect which were born and bred during time attack setup and testing.

Some people see modifieds involvement as a bad thing - not me - last year because of the media hype 40,000 people came to cali speedway from all over the country to watch road racing - many for the first time - some of those even took an interest in it and I see projects geared towards track days becomming alot more popular

Another cool aspect is getting to see all these supposed hu cars that were built actually turn a wheel - theres like 6 in so cal I know of that the owners just can't afford to regually attend events and the project stalled after the car was done.

Anyway I'm going to stay over in vegas after sema and attend the even as a spectator and I'll post some detailed photos so people can see whats it's all about rather than just hypothosize on it beforehand

end of official ready for the press commentary y0!

 

My beef with this is the safety issue, would I trust some tuner magazine doing a time trial to tech cars as much as I would trust SCCA or NASA?

 

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SCCA and NASA only tech cars to verify the required saftey equipment is in the car. NASA instructors tech the student's cars for DE weekends if they have not had it done in a shop. So.... which is better?

If you are counting on the organizing group, whether it be scca, nasa, or tuner magazine to tech cars and make sure they are safe for track use, then you're well behind the 8-ball.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SCCA and NASA only tech cars to verify the required saftey equipment is in the car. NASA instructors tech the student's cars for DE weekends if they have not had it done in a shop. So.... which is better?

If you are counting on the organizing group, whether it be scca, nasa, or tuner magazine to tech cars and make sure they are safe for track use, then you're well behind the 8-ball.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I am counting on the sanctioning group to not turn a blind eye for missing equipment just so they can have more cars and bigger coverage.

 

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No I am counting on the sanctioning group to not turn a blind eye for missing equipment just so they can have more cars and bigger coverage.

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Where do you see evidence of this happening?

 

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I never said it was happening or I had seen it happen, all I said that I personally wouldn't attend something like that since they don't have a history of holding track events.

 

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But you dont know that, or how well the events are run/organized - you're making gross assumptions due to their association with a magazine used to promote the events.

I have attended a lot of 'club' events (mazda, audi, integra type-r, etc) and they have always been safe and well run.

 

I think too that with the representatives of the event speaking up here about their own concerns for safety, it should be a non-issue. One of them did drive it home with a statement like, "WE are more worried about it than you, since we're responsible for it". It's also in their best interest to run a safe event, even if it means slightly less participants, as if they develop a reputation for being unsafe, future events will be "tainted".

 

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I never said it was happening or I had seen it happen, all I said that I personally wouldn't attend something like that since they don't have a history of holding track events. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to do a bit more research before making posts like this. Redline has been holding track events for the past 4 years, and has been doing time trial events for the last year or so. Our events are VERY safe (knocks on wood), just ask around. We have built a reputation in the community, and I think it's a pretty good one.