New thread this one got out of hand IMHO.
Managed to get ahold of a video from a friend.

New Thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2397292


Modified by civicjoe at 1:40 PM 9/28/2008

 

dont put r-comps on or you'll roll that tin box. other than that, stay with it. keep doing events and learning.

 

Modified by civicjoe at 12:07 PM 9/28/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicjoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are r-comps?

edit: oh.. racing compound tires right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes. If you had R-comps and kept stock suspension, be ready to call insurance.

 

Modified by civicjoe at 12:07 PM 9/28/2008

 

Just from look at the pic (not sure what the course looked like or the speeds before that corner), but it looks like you are going into the corner too fast at FULL LEFT LOCK.

As everyone will tell you here in this forum, DON'T DO ANY MODS. Just leave it be and learn to drive the car the way it is. Once you can run consistent times compared to your peers in your class you can maybe start working on other things. If you can consistently be 2-4 seconds behind the leaders in your class you are doing well. If you are more than that you need to work on driving the car as is.

The other thing would have been to ask an experienced driver to run your car and see what his/her times would have been compared to yours - to find a benchmark sort of speak.

Our region has a lot of novices show up to our events, and I will always mention at the driver's meeting that we have instructors to ride with you, drive the car for you, or even ask you to ride along with them. Some people for some reason people cannot swallow their pride and ask for help. Don't be one of these people.

At every event I see someone OVERDRIVING their car I will walk up casually and ask if they would like some pointers to go faster. I'll also ask to drive their car to point out where they should be looking, what they should be doing with the brakes and gas, and how to turn the steering wheel correctly ALL while driving the car on course. On average I will be about 5-8 seconds faster than the car owner on my 1st run IN A CAR I'VE NEVER DRIVEN BEFORE.

 

Modified by civicjoe at 12:08 PM 9/28/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicjoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My turbo kit is prolly about 80% pieced together so I would like a lsd and better clutch anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a turbo won't really help you much for autocross, you'd be better of spending the money on suspension and decent tires (not rcomps yet). a lsd will help a lot though.

if i were you i would look into your regions SCCA events, classes make it is much more competitive and therefore a lot more fun. once you find your region you can start building the car for a class, rather then just throwing parts at the car, which will likely end up putting you in SM.

 

A cool looking pic, but...

As was previously mentioned, it looks like you completely over drove the car into the corner. Understand that your "talent" maybe be above average, sure, but it is no substitute for experience. Listen to those who have it, you can only get faster...

 

Modified by civicjoe at 12:07 PM 9/28/2008

 

No need to get your feathers ruffled.

You post a nice pic of you over driving the car, asking for tips, make a completely arrogant comment, and then say we've taken this whole thing out of context. Shame on us.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicjoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would consider myself in the "naturally skilled" category </TD></TR></TABLE>

You said it, not me.

 

end of thread.

 

ummm... naturally skilled or not...

not alot people know that pictures tell racers alot about how their cars are working during transitions and corners...

you only 3 wheeld cause you came into that corner real hot (your front is way loaded)... and maybe im not looking at it right.. but i see pointer cone to the right and it looks like ur about to go left

 

If I were in your situation, I would get ground controls with koni yellow shocks using ground control's standard spring rates, or maybe a touch softer. Also, ask for the next step longer springs than they would normally provide if you plan to keep your car near stock height. Get the next step up in tires, something like Kumho SPT or something of that level. Go drive around a lot and play around with the damper settings and otherwise get a good feel for what the car is doing.

If by then you still hate the amount of body roll or understeer, get a Type R rear sway bar or stiffer springs in the rear if you can tolerate more harshness.

Add in the turbo any time you want.

I have no other suggestions on what to do after that, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. The main thing to keep in mind is "APPLICATION". Do whatever you think is best for what you want to do. Keep an open mind, but selectively ignore advice if it doesn't apply to your situation. It seems to me in this thread that a lot of people are trying to give you advice on how to become a better driver, which involves staying with the stock car and improving your skills. On the other hand, it seems like you want to actually tweak around with the car and improve it's performance. So go ahead.

Edit: oops, looks like I'm too late

 

no it's cool I read it

I prolly shouldn't have posted a bad pic/asked for tips and expect them to not be associated lol even though I explained

 

it would of been better to just post your video here then waste another thread


Modified by vietnameeh at 2:04 PM 9/28/2008

 

well I"m sorry I'm just a hopeless waste of server space...

 

uhhh.... I'm not sure what to say....

Let's drink a beer and think about it.

 

Everything that has been said is usefull info. I have talked to a few really good drivers that have been to/won nationals. They all said to just come to events with a stock car on street tires, and talk to people/instructors about the driving and tecniques. Just keep going to events and drive as much as you can. Learn how to enter and exit corners, and don't be affraid to hit a few cones!!