Ohlins Struts
First off i searched my *** off and came to a conclusion that they are avaliable for the EK civic. They are the ones being made in Japan under Ohlins name, not in Sweden liek teh rest.
Im aware that they are very pricey, and not readily avaliable.
Does anyone have an ENGLISH webiste that has information and distributors on them, or does anyone knwo where i can pick some up. They should list for $1800 for a 4 corners.
Thanks in advance.
Im aware that they are very pricey, and not readily avaliable.
Does anyone have an ENGLISH webiste that has information and distributors on them, or does anyone knwo where i can pick some up. They should list for $1800 for a 4 corners.
Thanks in advance.
The double adjustable, remote reservior kind? Dayum! Pricey is right. $1800 doesn't sound quite right for all 4 corners. A buddy of mine ran them on a Motorola/Grand Am-type ITR and they were about 1k-1.5k EACH!
Also, what are your plans for the car? If you plan on racing, these shocks are not legal many of the more common/popular/affordable (?!) race series...
Also, what are your plans for the car? If you plan on racing, these shocks are not legal many of the more common/popular/affordable (?!) race series...
I also think you're in the wrong price range. To find them, check with real race supply shops. http://www.bsrproducts.com is one that comes to mind.
Actually, I have a catalog at home from a shop that I know had them listed. I can't remember the name now though. If I can find the catalog I'll come back and let you know what it is.
[edit] and btw, honda's have shocks, not struts. -- just being picky...
[Modified by JeffS, 9:21 AM 10/17/2002]
Actually, I have a catalog at home from a shop that I know had them listed. I can't remember the name now though. If I can find the catalog I'll come back and let you know what it is.
[edit] and btw, honda's have shocks, not struts. -- just being picky...
[Modified by JeffS, 9:21 AM 10/17/2002]
Ohlins makes non-remote res. Shocks for Hondas and they are around that price range. My buddy has a set on his Civic designed for DC2-R.
The Remote Resevoir are going to be way more.
Suprdave
The Remote Resevoir are going to be way more.
Suprdave
yes they are avialbe for hondas. there are alot to choose from actually. they have the c-collar coilovers, or they have the clamp style hieght adjustable and they have the non-height adjustble. so price range is pretty diverse. i have been on the coilovers and the clamp style, both very nice ride.
Ohlins makes non-remote res. Shocks for Hondas and they are around that price range. My buddy has a set on his Civic designed for DC2-R.
The Remote Resevoir are going to be way more.
Suprdave
The Remote Resevoir are going to be way more.
Suprdave
I am referrign the the typical Ohlins shocks that superdave mentioned, the "cheap" ones as they classify it.
Any more sites? Im trying to help out a friend here...
Jeff, yes i know Hondas have shocks, not struts. My bad. Thanks for the correction
[Modified by Cal, 7:48 PM 10/17/2002]
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This is the reply i received last spring when i was shopping for suspension:
We are anxiously awaiting the "Japanese" Öhlins dampers to be approved for US
distribution. Before they can be sold here the damping settings must be
changed and the mounting brackets need to be reconfigured to fit US spec
cars. Then they are off to the European TUV (much like the US DOT) for
highway approval. Next in line is the availability of spare parts, service
and mounting instructions. Add to these delays, the fact that the Honda Civic
is not the most popular car in Europe, and you can see that the Mitsubishi's,
Subaru's, Peugot's, BMW's, etc. are first in line.
It is a long and legal (someties frustrating) process.
We don't expect the Honda Civic set-up to be available for another 6 months
or so. The price for a complete set of two way adjustable dampers will
probably be close to $1800.00.
Thank you for your interest,
Doug Voegeli
Öhlins USA, Inc.
Now as far as importing them, most any import shop should be able to order them. I tried several of the motorcycle shops that carry Ohlins, and non were willing to order them. When they come to the US, i'll probably sell my current setup for the Ohlins set up. Good luck.
We are anxiously awaiting the "Japanese" Öhlins dampers to be approved for US
distribution. Before they can be sold here the damping settings must be
changed and the mounting brackets need to be reconfigured to fit US spec
cars. Then they are off to the European TUV (much like the US DOT) for
highway approval. Next in line is the availability of spare parts, service
and mounting instructions. Add to these delays, the fact that the Honda Civic
is not the most popular car in Europe, and you can see that the Mitsubishi's,
Subaru's, Peugot's, BMW's, etc. are first in line.
It is a long and legal (someties frustrating) process.
We don't expect the Honda Civic set-up to be available for another 6 months
or so. The price for a complete set of two way adjustable dampers will
probably be close to $1800.00.
Thank you for your interest,
Doug Voegeli
Öhlins USA, Inc.
Now as far as importing them, most any import shop should be able to order them. I tried several of the motorcycle shops that carry Ohlins, and non were willing to order them. When they come to the US, i'll probably sell my current setup for the Ohlins set up. Good luck.
thanks a lot. That reply was money
can you email me with any info you recieve on tehm at anytime. Car is up on stands for the next 5 months and im not on course until April anyways. i hope they get their act together by than...
calbroderick@rogers.com
thanks
can you email me with any info you recieve on tehm at anytime. Car is up on stands for the next 5 months and im not on course until April anyways. i hope they get their act together by than...
calbroderick@rogers.com
thanks
Here is an e-mail exchange i had about Ohlins suspension...
Christian,
I have talked with Ohlins. We may have something for you later this year, but nothing right now.
There appears to be a whole lot of red tape that Ohlins is trying to work through and to be honest I don't know a whole lot about it.
Please check back with me in a few months if you are still interested.
Thanks.
Sharon Naake
Naake Motorsports
Suspension Specialties
http://www.naaake.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:44 PM
To: Naake Motorsports
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
I am located in New York City. BTW you have great customer service.
Thanks again
-----Original Message-----
From: Naake Motorsports [mailto:naake@prodigy.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:20 PM
To: christian.gaines@verizon.net
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Christian,
There is no other Ohlins system for your car. Where are you located?
Sharon Naake
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:09 AM
To: Naake Motorsports
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
That would be great if you could find out. I use the car primarily on the track so go-cart like ride is fine for me. Is this the only Ohlins system available for my car?
-----Original Message-----
From: Naake Motorsports [mailto:naake@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:57 PM
To: christian.gaines@verizon.net
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Christian,
Ohlins is very slow at making any moves at all.
I have no first hand knowledge of the Japanese built Ohlins shocks.
Ohlins tells me, the Japanese built shocks are built for the Japanese market, and the Japanese shocks give the car a real go-carty feel. They tell me the Japanese drivers like ultra responsive steering and that is not what the US market wants. I would agree and I would think you would not want that either. However, you seem to have a pretty positive impression of these shocks. I do not think you would have that impression if they were built as I am told.
I will look into why Ohlins says I can not import them.
Let me see what I can do. I will get back to you with a little more info. as soon as I have some. It may take a little while to get some information out of Ohlins.
Sharon Naake
Naake Motorsports
Suspension Specialists
http://www.naake.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:16 PM
To: Naake Motorsports
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Sharon,
Thanks so much for your prompt reply. Please let me know when they will be available in the States.
Six months is such a long time. I was in Canada last week and a guy a met had this set up in his Integra Type-R, but I was unable to ask him any information about them. All I know is that the suspension felt phenomenal. I am wondering why they can’t be imported and how the setup will be different when they finally start making them for the States. How could they be so different since Japanese Type-R's suspension is basically the same as the USDM version?
Please let me know when they will be available in the States, I will be your first customer.
Christian
-----Original Message-----
From: Naake Motorsports [mailto:naake@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:54 PM
To: christian.gaines@verizon.net
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Christian,
They are not yet available in the US and they can not be exported either. The Ohlins shocks made in Japan have a very different set-up than what we would have in the US. Ohlins is currently working on the setting for these shocks and we hope to have them in 6 months or so.
Sharon Naake
Naake Motorsports
Suspension Specialties
http://www.naake.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:40 PM
To: info@naake.com
Subject: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Hello,
I am looking for information on a Ohlins suspension for my Acura Integra. I an forwarding a picture sent to me from Japan of a system which many Integras use there. I will be using the car for road racing and auto crossing. Could you please supply me with additional information on applications and pricing for my car?
Christian Gaines
[Modified by Christian, 1:20 AM 10/18/2002]
Christian,
I have talked with Ohlins. We may have something for you later this year, but nothing right now.
There appears to be a whole lot of red tape that Ohlins is trying to work through and to be honest I don't know a whole lot about it.
Please check back with me in a few months if you are still interested.
Thanks.
Sharon Naake
Naake Motorsports
Suspension Specialties
http://www.naaake.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:44 PM
To: Naake Motorsports
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
I am located in New York City. BTW you have great customer service.
Thanks again
-----Original Message-----
From: Naake Motorsports [mailto:naake@prodigy.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:20 PM
To: christian.gaines@verizon.net
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Christian,
There is no other Ohlins system for your car. Where are you located?
Sharon Naake
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:09 AM
To: Naake Motorsports
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
That would be great if you could find out. I use the car primarily on the track so go-cart like ride is fine for me. Is this the only Ohlins system available for my car?
-----Original Message-----
From: Naake Motorsports [mailto:naake@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:57 PM
To: christian.gaines@verizon.net
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Christian,
Ohlins is very slow at making any moves at all.
I have no first hand knowledge of the Japanese built Ohlins shocks.
Ohlins tells me, the Japanese built shocks are built for the Japanese market, and the Japanese shocks give the car a real go-carty feel. They tell me the Japanese drivers like ultra responsive steering and that is not what the US market wants. I would agree and I would think you would not want that either. However, you seem to have a pretty positive impression of these shocks. I do not think you would have that impression if they were built as I am told.
I will look into why Ohlins says I can not import them.
Let me see what I can do. I will get back to you with a little more info. as soon as I have some. It may take a little while to get some information out of Ohlins.
Sharon Naake
Naake Motorsports
Suspension Specialists
http://www.naake.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:16 PM
To: Naake Motorsports
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Sharon,
Thanks so much for your prompt reply. Please let me know when they will be available in the States.
Six months is such a long time. I was in Canada last week and a guy a met had this set up in his Integra Type-R, but I was unable to ask him any information about them. All I know is that the suspension felt phenomenal. I am wondering why they can’t be imported and how the setup will be different when they finally start making them for the States. How could they be so different since Japanese Type-R's suspension is basically the same as the USDM version?
Please let me know when they will be available in the States, I will be your first customer.
Christian
-----Original Message-----
From: Naake Motorsports [mailto:naake@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:54 PM
To: christian.gaines@verizon.net
Subject: RE: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Christian,
They are not yet available in the US and they can not be exported either. The Ohlins shocks made in Japan have a very different set-up than what we would have in the US. Ohlins is currently working on the setting for these shocks and we hope to have them in 6 months or so.
Sharon Naake
Naake Motorsports
Suspension Specialties
http://www.naake.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Gaines [mailto:christian.gaines@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:40 PM
To: info@naake.com
Subject: OHLINS for an Acura Integra
Hello,
I am looking for information on a Ohlins suspension for my Acura Integra. I an forwarding a picture sent to me from Japan of a system which many Integras use there. I will be using the car for road racing and auto crossing. Could you please supply me with additional information on applications and pricing for my car?
Christian Gaines
[Modified by Christian, 1:20 AM 10/18/2002]
I don't get it? Tein, Zeal, JIC all seem to be able to get their product over here pretty easily....why not Ohlins? I would ideally like to run Ohlins, but alas I can't afford then so I'll be sportin' Koni's
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/4wd/4w.htm
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/4wd/p2_2_2.htm
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/4wd/4w.htm
[Modified by kengs, 12:12 AM 10/19/2002]
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/4wd/p2_2_2.htm
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/4wd/4w.htm
[Modified by kengs, 12:12 AM 10/19/2002]
sorry for the noob question-but how would those feel during a drive?
the blue spring is the tender spring....has something to do with keeping tension on the spring in droop, say you run a curb and launch the front wheels....i dunno, just my guess
They are helper springs... They help keep the main spring from being compressed under drop. This was you have perfect rebound and preload everytime. Well thats what they are suppose to do at least..
Most RACE suspensions dont use them cause the mainspring is soo stiff, a lighttwiehgt car wont really compress them at all, simple rest on them...
Most RACE suspensions dont use them cause the mainspring is soo stiff, a lighttwiehgt car wont really compress them at all, simple rest on them...
Or they have a rating approximately half of the main spring (give or take). This would allow the small road irregularities to be easily absorbed, saving the higher rated main spring for big bumps, or dive, or roll resistance, etc. Sort of a progressive spring. Truechoice Stage four maybe.
Anyways, when I got my DX (no roll bars) and the Koni's and Eibach ERS springs, taking on a driveway apron would unseat the rear spring. Unless it came back correctly on the perches, it would BANG loudly eventually as it reseated. The helper spring would make sure it was always in the right place (like everyone said). Now that I have a rear roll bar, that added stiffness negates the use of the helper spring. Great way to soak up some money, eh Truechoice?
Anyways, when I got my DX (no roll bars) and the Koni's and Eibach ERS springs, taking on a driveway apron would unseat the rear spring. Unless it came back correctly on the perches, it would BANG loudly eventually as it reseated. The helper spring would make sure it was always in the right place (like everyone said). Now that I have a rear roll bar, that added stiffness negates the use of the helper spring. Great way to soak up some money, eh Truechoice?
Guys, someone is offering me a good deal on ohlins, however they are for the eg hatch and I own an ek, the guy said I could just change the trailing arms to eg ones and i'll be able to mount those ohlins with no problems. Is this true? What are the advantages/disadvantages in getting eg trailing arms? thanks!
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