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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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I will be attending Speedventures track day Oct 2 at Buttonwillow. Would be nice to see some other Teg's out there. Heres the track *****...should be fun as always!
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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I will be attending Speedventures track day Oct 2 at Buttonwillow. Would be nice to see some other Teg's out there. Heres the track *****...should be fun as always!
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Is it the picture or do you have positive camber in the rear? Anyway, it looks as though the front has a bunch more than the rear.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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drilled rotors?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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I'm not so worried about that...got any pictures of the car jacked up so we can see if it's got enough droop travel?

Scott, who likes the look of low black kaa's...though low Championship White kaa's look pretty good too...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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what about a low purple car witha a 1.5L
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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It's depend on the rimz and other blingz...

Scott, who Really Likes Acura Supersonic Blue Pearl too...fact is I ain't never seen a color the DC2 doesn't look good in.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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diggin azenis on the back, es100 in the front (at least thats what it looks like) have fun out there
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Seriously flip those. Soon.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Seriously flip those. Soon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

See how it works: post a picture of your car and everyone gets to make comments on how it should be set up. And it's all freeeeeeeeee.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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I can tell just by looking that it doesn't have enough preload.

Scott, who is just trying to be friendly in the H-T way...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Preload and droop ownz j00.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Preload and droop ownz j00. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Preload and Droop are extremely complicated, and it's no wonder so many racers get confused.

I myself have spent considerable time with the car on jackstands studying steady state droop. And I haven't even begun to try to understand transient droop response.

But, all that aside, many just go ahead and put the car on the track with accidental or random droop settings - some get lucky, and some...well, not so lucky. And either way, without knowing the real story, they might just as well be praying to the aliens.

Scott, who has to figure out a way to get Johnny Mac to divulge his tender spring philosophy..."maybe I can trick him"...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Scott, who has to figure out a way to get Johnny Mac to divulge his tender spring philosophy..."maybe I can trick him"...</TD></TR></TABLE>

his wisdome is great, but unfortanatly if your from the wacky northwest he can't say a word.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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I myself have spent considerable time with the car on jackstands studying steady state droop.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That was a good one. Steady state droop oWnZ joO!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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you dont have enough paint chips on the front lip yet!!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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And that's the way it should be.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Is it the picture or do you have positive camber in the rear? Anyway, it looks as though the front has a bunch more than the rear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Camber F -3.4 R -1.8
Coming to the track?

&gt;Drilled rotors?: for weight savings. I shaved off nearly 1Lbs and Im outbraking most people at the track with no brake fade at all (Endless CCX)+stock bias and the brake balance is perfect.
Going to the track?

&gt;Seriously flip those. Soon.
Why! this is a track car only. Do you know how hard this is to drive on the streets with 16Kg Front Pillow mount Aragosta coilovers and a 1 way Cusco LSD, No firewall insulation and an engine damper. The ES100 are 55 which adds a bit of cushion (no trailer) Azenis where cheap, only reason I got em.
+ these are not my track tires, which are F 225 32 offset AO32 R205 45offset AO32

&gt;I can tell just by looking that it doesn't have enough preload.
Im using a short stroke damper in the rear with a spacer, 6" swift 17Kg spring. Ive been trackin this car since '95 and the car is very well balanced. The springs are preloaded, theres almost no travel with the short damper which suits this chassis and my driving really well.
Going to the track?


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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Had the front bumper repainted with only 2 track events since. The whole bumper was stripped and lower section trimmed to save 1.8 Lbs.
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Modified by tnd2gen at 3:33 PM 9/15/2005


Modified by tnd2gen at 3:38 PM 9/15/2005
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tnd2gen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I shaved off nearly 1Lbs and Im outbraking most people at the track...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm just curious, how are you measuring this? (not the lbs, the "outbraking" part)
And, no, I'm not going to the track this weekend.

Nice DA.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Thanks for replying to my post.

Referencing cones for braking, some drivers use that as a guide. Its easy to tell if your trailing someone and they brake and then you brake 2-3 meters later. Thats not to say Im braking later than everyone, as the guy in the 2200Lbs civic behind me can go in hotter than I can, but you get the idea.
I used to use Hawk blues, but with the Endless CCX's I can brake an extra couple meters over those. Especially at high speeds.


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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR908 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont have enough paint chips on the front lip yet!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
I liked better this way with the **** front, but I had about 3 layers of paint on it at this time.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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&gt;Seriously flip those. Soon.
Why! this is a track car only. Do you know how hard this is to drive on the streets with 16Kg Front Pillow mount Aragosta coilovers and a 1 way Cusco LSD, No firewall insulation and an engine damper. The ES100 are 55 which adds a bit of cushion (no trailer) Azenis where cheap, only reason I got em.
+ these are not my track tires, which are F 225 32 offset AO32 R205 45offset AO32</TD></TR></TABLE>

Carry on then, sir!
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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ill be out there on the 30th. i mayyyy stay for the 1st, but money is tight right now so we will see.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Patrick...

trying to get love here is like telling your gal that your not really a millionare after about 2 years worth of dating and fooling around. Just let your track time tell it like it is you CDM/JDM whoe
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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nice rooking car and aragostas
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