I just ordered a Type R LSD for my GS-R tranny and I am wondering if I made the right choice. What is the difference between this and the Quaife LSD in real world driving terms?

Thanks

 

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The quaife has a lifetime guarantee and i think

 

I have a stock Honda LSD in my JDM YS1, and it is noticeable, but not too violent in action. I have heard that the Type R one is very good, but the Quaife will pull toward the inside harder, and has a much more noticable kick in feeling. There have been a number of recent discussions on this topic, one in the last 3 weeks or so that started out talking about someone's diff being damaged and what should they replace it with. Give that a shot, many people chimed in, including people that had used more than one type of diff. HTH.

 

the Quiafe is a Torsen Diff (torque sensing) as opposed to the honda LSD which is a clutch-type limited slip as I under stand it.
I'd perfer the Quiafe.

 

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I'd perfer the Quiafe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry... try again.

They are both gear-driven differentials. I see this type of question come up frequently, and I rarely see any useful opinions. Truth is, there aren't that many people who have driven different differentials - much less in the same car. This has been bugging me for over a year.

Simply out of curiousity, I will soon be taking out my Quaife and installing an ATS clutch-type differential just so I can finally know how they compare. I can tell you that the ATS is at least half the weight of the Quaife. I'll weigh them together when I do the swap.

[edit] I also have a type-R diff. I could get a weight comparison, but I don't plan to waste the time installing it for comparison.

 

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I've actually read from a few places that Quaife makes Honda's LSDs.

If that was the case, then the only difference would be that the Quaife ATB comes with a lifetime warranty.

And both the Quaife ATB and OEM Honda LSD are "Torsen" helical-gear differentials. Spoon, Mugen, and Kaaz LSDs are the "mechanical" clutch-type LSDs.

 

I have driven a Quaife and clutch type diff in a CRX Si. I race on the clutch type (the unit OPM sells) and only drove the Quaife *once* so take my comments with a nugget of salt. *My* sensation was the Quaife wants to drive the car to the outside of the turn, the steering wants to remain in its turned-in position and didn't notice any slip (or little). *My* sensation with the clutch type is that it wants to drive to the inside of the turn, the steering opens on its own and it bites very hard and notice no slip (or little). It seems to come down to driving style and what you like - I know a few guys that really like the Quaife, I very much like what I have in the race car now (the clutch type). As for the no slip or little, with both, you can overpower the grip of _both_ front tires with the loud pedal - no way to avoid that. The Quaife has a lifetime warranty which I think many like. The clutch type I have has survived a tranny self destruct (that took every single other part of the tranny with it _minus_ the LSD) and can be adjusted to my liking. I unfortunately know very little about the Type R LSD (just have driven a couple on the street and one on the track) - I thought it was nice personally but from my now distant memory would reflect that the sensation was more akin to the Quaife than the diff in my race car.

But my observations on this are highly limited as this is the first car I have ever driven w/ regularity w/ an LSD - so my "sensations" or "feeling" could very easily be inaccurate as I don't have a long history to compare them with.

 

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I've actually read from a few places that Quaife makes Honda's LSDs.

If that was the case, then the only difference would be that the Quaife ATB comes with a lifetime warranty.
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messageboard myth. If you'd seen the two in person you'd understand that they're nowhere near the same thing.

 

then who makes a torsen diff?

 

I just replaced the LSD in my 2000 Type R with a Quaife unit.

Why? Because I also changed the final drive from 4.4 to 4.785 (JDM) and have increased the power of the motor by over 25% - and wanted better performance at the track. I had also heard raves about the Quaife unit from another local Type R owner who races.

Side by side - there is a definite difference in construction between the stock Torsen and Quaife. The Quaife is much beefier - but I didn't notice a huge difference in weight as was suggested to me on this board.

On the street - I haven't honestly noticed much difference from the stock LSD.

At the track it was a different feeling altogether. I had the opportunity to have back to back track comparisons within a couple of weeks between the stock unit and the Quaife. I have a LOT more traction coming out of turns with the Quaife unit than I do with the stock LSD (on R compound tires btw). There is a little more torque steer if you are not careful with your throttle application - but in general the feeling was of better traction everywhere. We even had a session in the morning where the track was still a little damp - and I was impressed in the improvement in traction and surefootedness I had - as I was initially concerned that the higher FD would have me spinning my tires.

 

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Okay, thanks for the correction. As I mentioned, I was just relaying what I'd read; I didn't know whether it was true or not.

 

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Simply out of curiousity, I will soon be taking out my Quaife and installing an ATS clutch-type differential just so I can finally know how they compare. I can tell you that the ATS is at least half the weight of the Quaife. I'll weigh them together when I do the swap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey Jeff Please let us know what your thoughts are. I have a quaife in my car right now and I drove Rodney's civic (his has an ATS) last fall. The difference was enough for me to consider replacing my quaife next year (I'm outta money already this year ). Granted this was on a different car then mine but the ATS definitly felt more aggresive (which I like!). I'd be curious to here your thoughts on the comparison....

Kevin (KekeK-18), didn't you try an ATS unit over another type of LSD? what were your thoughts on it? You ended up removing the ATS didn't you?

 

Yeah Matt, The ATS is definitely a lot more aggressive, espicailly the d20 that I had, it almost feels like a welded diff. But I've also noticed the ATS(clutch type) tend to push both into and out of a corner in autox but I think they will work better in a road racing situation which have wider turns. It works for Chris though, but I personally prefer the type r or quaife for autox.

 

Thanks for the info guys. I got a pretty good deal on the diff so... It's my daily driver and I'm pushing 260+ at the wheels so it's kinda a necessity at this point. I'm looking forward to losing the open diff.