Coilover options
yes i searched but either im dumb or i cant find anything on progress coilovers
Heres the situation.
Track/Auto-x civic rinning in Street Touring
All the suspension is complete except The AGX's cant handle the spring rate im running (425 GCs f&r)
So here are the options i have narrowed down too
1) Shortened Revalved Koni's with existing GCs
2) Progress Coilovers
3) Tokico Coilovers (those new shortened ones)
i chose these 3 because i need something shortened. i actually want to be able to lower my car which i cant really do with the AGXs without being all over the bumpstops. I also dont want to run 600lb f springs and 900lb r springs cause it is my daily driver in the summer and the roads in upstate NY SUCK
Now the tokicos are the cheeepest ones but i have a feeling that the springs will be too soft and im pretty sure, you dont have optional spring rates/valving
So, those are pretty much out of the picture unless someone can convince me that they are awsome
Everyone is running shortened/revalved koni's and i know they are awsome and i know alot of people that win the SCCA nationals run them. I think they will set me back somewhere around $1200
The Progress coilovers are lookin very nice too, however. If im not mistakin, you can get them with different spring rates and vavling. They are also shortened 30mm. These also run about $1200 but then i can get like $200+ back by selling my GCs to my friend.
Anyone have experience with both or know the revalve prices koni vs progress please let me know. and no posts that just say "koni-GC
"
thanks!
Heres the situation.
Track/Auto-x civic rinning in Street Touring
All the suspension is complete except The AGX's cant handle the spring rate im running (425 GCs f&r)
So here are the options i have narrowed down too
1) Shortened Revalved Koni's with existing GCs
2) Progress Coilovers
3) Tokico Coilovers (those new shortened ones)
i chose these 3 because i need something shortened. i actually want to be able to lower my car which i cant really do with the AGXs without being all over the bumpstops. I also dont want to run 600lb f springs and 900lb r springs cause it is my daily driver in the summer and the roads in upstate NY SUCK
Now the tokicos are the cheeepest ones but i have a feeling that the springs will be too soft and im pretty sure, you dont have optional spring rates/valving
So, those are pretty much out of the picture unless someone can convince me that they are awsome
Everyone is running shortened/revalved koni's and i know they are awsome and i know alot of people that win the SCCA nationals run them. I think they will set me back somewhere around $1200
The Progress coilovers are lookin very nice too, however. If im not mistakin, you can get them with different spring rates and vavling. They are also shortened 30mm. These also run about $1200 but then i can get like $200+ back by selling my GCs to my friend.
Anyone have experience with both or know the revalve prices koni vs progress please let me know. and no posts that just say "koni-GC
"thanks!
The progress are nice, but they're not adjustable. As long as you specify your spring rates up front, and don't want to make a drastic change, they're a good choice.
The Konis are a proven choice. You can't go wrong there.
The Tokiko's aren't in the same league and shouldn't be compared to the other two.
The Konis are a proven choice. You can't go wrong there.
The Tokiko's aren't in the same league and shouldn't be compared to the other two.
I'm on kyb agx shocks and dropzone coilovers(ebay value $75). they aren't the highest in quality but they get the job done just fine. They came with 350/450 spring rates.
Since you're looking for shock travel. With the kyb shocks you can cut off the front brake bracket in the front and get an extra 3/4 to a full inch of shock travel. If you want to see how low it can go before bottoming it out check out the pics of my car in the signature. we accidentaly did it when installing the suspension and it was resting on the top of the shocks.
Since you're looking for shock travel. With the kyb shocks you can cut off the front brake bracket in the front and get an extra 3/4 to a full inch of shock travel. If you want to see how low it can go before bottoming it out check out the pics of my car in the signature. we accidentaly did it when installing the suspension and it was resting on the top of the shocks.
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Thats what i thought
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ahh, i thought of doing this but there is a problem
im not sure if its the same on the ef's as the eg's but there is a dent like thing that the pinch bolt goes next to, and since there is not one up 3/4 of an inch, u cant bring the shock down that way.
but since i think the agx's are underdampend anyways it doesnt even matter
Thats what i thought
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ahh, i thought of doing this but there is a problem
im not sure if its the same on the ef's as the eg's but there is a dent like thing that the pinch bolt goes next to, and since there is not one up 3/4 of an inch, u cant bring the shock down that way.
but since i think the agx's are underdampend anyways it doesnt even matter
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my friend has the progress setup in his GSR and i have to say that it's the most comfortable riding aftermarket suspension i've ever ridden. he's probably going to bump up the spring rates and revalve the shocks though.
anyway, it's a good setup even if it lacks adjustability. perfect for a daily driver/weekend racer.
anyway, it's a good setup even if it lacks adjustability. perfect for a daily driver/weekend racer.
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ahh, i thought of doing this but there is a problem
im not sure if its the same on the ef's as the eg's but there is a dent like thing that the pinch bolt goes next to, and since there is not one up 3/4 of an inch, u cant bring the shock down that way.
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Although the dent to align the pinchbolt is handy, it is not needed or doesn't keep you from pushing any brand of shock farther down.
Insert the shock to align the pinchbolt and insert the pinchbolt and start it by about only 2 full threads. Take a straight blade screwdriver or chisel punch and wedge it into the split in the wishbone fork mount so you are forcing the hole wider. Push the shock further down to the point that you want it, remove the wedge and tighten the bolt. If the shock assembly is on the car on jackstands, put a floor jack under the LCA and push up against the car and it moved easily. I do it on all of my cars that use adjustable spring seat for many years, fixed perch shocks will be lowered thus losing the benefit of extra compression stroke. The pinchbolt does need to be started into the threads first as it's path is piloted. Of you push the shock down then try to start the pinchbolt, the curve of the shock body will deflect the end of the bolt and you will probably crossthread.
In the words of old Chef Tell: "Very simple, very easy"
ahh, i thought of doing this but there is a problem
im not sure if its the same on the ef's as the eg's but there is a dent like thing that the pinch bolt goes next to, and since there is not one up 3/4 of an inch, u cant bring the shock down that way.
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Although the dent to align the pinchbolt is handy, it is not needed or doesn't keep you from pushing any brand of shock farther down.
Insert the shock to align the pinchbolt and insert the pinchbolt and start it by about only 2 full threads. Take a straight blade screwdriver or chisel punch and wedge it into the split in the wishbone fork mount so you are forcing the hole wider. Push the shock further down to the point that you want it, remove the wedge and tighten the bolt. If the shock assembly is on the car on jackstands, put a floor jack under the LCA and push up against the car and it moved easily. I do it on all of my cars that use adjustable spring seat for many years, fixed perch shocks will be lowered thus losing the benefit of extra compression stroke. The pinchbolt does need to be started into the threads first as it's path is piloted. Of you push the shock down then try to start the pinchbolt, the curve of the shock body will deflect the end of the bolt and you will probably crossthread.
In the words of old Chef Tell: "Very simple, very easy"
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i chose these 3 because i need something shortened. i actually want to be able to lower my car which i cant really do with the AGXs without being all over the bumpstops. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ground Control makes some modified Upper Hats that give you some more travel , I know several people have them and like them nad this would be the cheapest way to get more travel. I belive there around 75 a pair.
i chose these 3 because i need something shortened. i actually want to be able to lower my car which i cant really do with the AGXs without being all over the bumpstops. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ground Control makes some modified Upper Hats that give you some more travel , I know several people have them and like them nad this would be the cheapest way to get more travel. I belive there around 75 a pair.
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Ground Control makes some modified Upper Hats that give you some more travel , I know several people have them and like them nad this would be the cheapest way to get more travel. I belive there around 75 a pair.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shhh, i already have them
yeah, i know but i want a shock that has matched dampening. im just not happy with the agx's anymore
i found a pair of used progress coilovers here for cheep but one is of the shocks is leaking
does anyone know how much it would cost to get new springs and revalve these?
Ground Control makes some modified Upper Hats that give you some more travel , I know several people have them and like them nad this would be the cheapest way to get more travel. I belive there around 75 a pair.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shhh, i already have them
yeah, i know but i want a shock that has matched dampening. im just not happy with the agx's anymore
i found a pair of used progress coilovers here for cheep but one is of the shocks is leaking
does anyone know how much it would cost to get new springs and revalve these?
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