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Old 11-01-2002, 10:02 AM
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Honda-Tech and East Coast Honda Challenge Entrants:

For a track/race-ONLY compound (zero street use), would you consider using a compound that is rotor aggressive and with corrosive dust if:

(1) the compound had exceptional initial bite
(2) very good pad recovery times
(3) high fade resistance
(4) good modulation and release

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(5) premium quality rotors were sold alongside the pads at a very attractive price point

I am just looking for some feedback on this matter, as we are currently beta-testing a compound which we expect to perform very well in IT-class cars, but that dyno and chemical-attribute testing has shown to be rotor aggressive and corrosive.

Again, this compound would be used ONLY in a race environment.

Thank you in advance,

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Old 11-01-2002, 10:21 AM
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would you consider using a compound that is rotor aggressive and with corrosive dust if
Corrosive to what? The wheels? What kind of measures would have to be taken as a result?

(5) premium quality rotors were sold alongside the pads at a very attractive price point
Does this include two piece rotors?

Again, this compound would be used ONLY in a race environment.
This is very tough to answer without knowing the extremes we are talking about. It's clearly a trade off situation, but there really is no way of describing how much it chews up the rotors and how corrosive it is. My inclination is to say that yes, I would be interested, but it would depend on how inconvenient those other attributes were.

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Old 11-01-2002, 10:28 AM
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Ya know what. Rotor aggressive is fine. Rotors are cheap. Wheels? Who cares what the wheels look like.

Sounds like a better version of Hawk Blues, which I loved for the longest time.

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Default Re: COBALT: Compound Feedback Requested (speedracer33)

Good questions, Matt.

Regarding corrosiveness, it would be corrosive to wheel finishes. If you have a set of wheels that you use only for racing, then it's probably not a issue, but I do know some people like to keep their wheels looking nice.

The rotors for OE-fitments would be a high/premium quality rotor, sourced from either Australia or Europe. They would be non-drilled, non-slotted, and manufactured to OE-spec. Cobalt only has two-piece, full-floating, directionally vented rotors available in OE-fitments for a small fitment of vehicles at this time (only ITR and NSX, from the H/A line).

HTH... -Andie



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Regarding corrosiveness, it would be corrosive to wheel finishes. If you have a set of wheels that you use only for racing, then it's probably not a issue, but I do know some people like to keep their wheels looking nice.
Yeah, that is one of the problems with buying a racecar that has Volk wheels. I care! LOL!

Cobalt only has two-piece, full-floating, directionally vented rotors available in OE-fitments for a small fitment of vehicles at this time (only ITR and NSX, from the H/A line).
With all of that in mind, I would only get those pads if I was not satisfied with a less aggressive pad. In other words, it wouldn't be my first choice, but I would use them if I had to, to avoid fade or other braking related problems.


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I would be fine with it. Like Warren said, sounds similar to Hawk Blue. I have been using the Hawk Blue plus Brembo blank combo for 2+ years. Corrosive dust and chewed up rotors are a worthy trade off for good pads, esp on cars like the Integra where you need to use 100% of the little brakes the car has.
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