Once my new rims get here, I'm going to go to Discount Tire and get some Falken Azenis mounted... Is there anything I have to do to break them in?

 

Hahahaha!

 

'and there will no mercy' =D

 

Here is a little mercy. Typically not really needed for street tires. For race tires, you gently bring them up to temp, then let them sit for at least 24 hours. The race tires usually are shaved so the benefit of the heat cycle usually is improved grip & life. Something about bringing the oils in the rubber to the surface so that they can scrubbed off & getting the molecues lined up. On new street tires, you will also be 'scrubbing' the mold release off the tread. Just FYI, you will not be able to raise the temps correctly on the street in anything resembling safe driving.


[Modified by civicrr, 8:08 PM 11/14/2002]

 

wow, even I know to use the search on that one.

heres one for the FAQ

 

Put them in the microwave!

 

Oh, settle down. I just wanted to make sure before I go autocrossing with them. I've never had performance street tires before. As for using "Search"... Honda-Tech's search function only looks at the thread titles, not the contents, so it's more trouble than it's worth most of the time.

Thanks for the informative post, civicrr. It's nice to see that someone here can actually give a straight answer without being a jerk about it.

I don't see why the rest of you even bothered to wate your time replying with non-sense. Grow up, get a life.

 

Because it is the "off-season" and we have nothing better to do until February when we start racing again.

 

cable connection to the intenet, $30/month

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30 seconds, ten fingers to type with, and a search function, priceless!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=289393

 

Weston, I have no idea if they should or should not be heat cycled (something tells me that a tire with any significant tread is only going to heat the tread blocks and not throughout the tire but I HAVE NO CLUE so don't trust me on that notion). I do recall that some folks (when they wanted to heat cycle R-compounds) would talk about finding a parking lot and doing aggressive figure 8's to try heat up the fronts. Again, I have no idea if this would work or any idea if these tires benefit from it.

If I was concerned, I would call Falken (if they have a NA presence) and ask them directly if this is beneficial for what you want to do with them.

Best of luck

 

Adam makes a good point. I would think that the best you can hope for is to scrub off the mold release. BTW, doing figure 8's that would build up enough heat in a parking lot is sure to get unwanted attention. I would just drive them for a few miles. When they don't look all shiney in the tread area, you are probably good to go.

 

"Adam makes a good point. I would think that the best you can hope for is to scrub off the mold release."

Exactaly remeber what happen to MadMatt, he trailerd his car down to Robeling, drove it off the trailer with new never been on the road Azen1s and prombly slid into a tire wall.

 

He's right. Lap 4, turn 1, right off into the tire wall. I didn't scrub them in at all.

 

But you got away with that one....now if you had just heat cycled your deer whistles......

 

For some reason people on this forum like to not answer your question and just be rude and obnoxious sometimes.

Just run them for about 500-1000 miles to scrub them in and get the coating off the tires.

 

Damage done by tirewall: $60
Damage done by a very dumb animal: $2100

 

In think Drew M is in his off-season mode period I think he's the one the lowered my points.

 

Yes, the Azenis are covered with a "greasy" compound probably left over from the molding process.

I specifically got mine for a Track day/HPDE, I mounted them a week in advance and put about 200 miles on them in all sorts of road conditions, Wet/Dry. And ended the week with an Autocross so that I could get a good feel for their performance and limit. After Sunday at the Autocross I drove them to LRP and after my first few warm up laps they just blew me away with their totally predictable feel, absolute grip and overall awesome performance. Some autocrossers report more of that greasy feel after a few hot runs and that they may spray cool water on them to maintain grip but, after running at least 60 laps with them I never found them to release early or become more slippery, they actually allowed me to dive deeper into turns and allowed me to learn to drive.

Driving them for auto-x and on a track showed me at least that they perform differently at different levels, OR it could just be that they were not quite ready for abuse Sunday and by Monday they were scuffed enough that their total grip was apparent.

This is my First time on them and I have to say that compared to Both of my previous sets of Re010's I am truely impressed with both performance and dollar value. Azenis are good stuff...

There of course is also the issue of their width and using a wider rim to accomodate this, I felt that they were a bit squirmy based on the width and although this may be true I am more used to their characteristics now and still impressed.


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