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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Well I last Saturday, some ******* in a Tundra, backed into my hatch while I was at work. But he was a very nice *******, because he came back to let me know of the unfortunate event. And well the picture shows the damage...





Well the Insurance co wanted to total the car, but I couldnt bring myself to salvage the car... So I took a check for the damages, and now its on me to fix it.

Is this fixable? I read the sticky on bodywork, so I figured I might try it (ive never done any before). BUT, I could use some help. I dont want to **** it up... If anyones in the Tucson/Phoenix area, and doesnt mind helpin, that would be great. Of course, compensation would be presented when finished (pm me)

But any general help at all would be great... Thanks guys
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Thas is very fixable actually. Ive seen worse. Its nice that it doesnt look like the paint is too damaged either. If you do some looking around, find a body shop or paintless dent removle that can fix it, if they are good enough, it shouldnt be a problem. I wouldnt suggest doing it yourself. An ametuer pounding out the dent probably wont come nearly close enough. Then youll end up using a lot of bondo and repaint.
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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It's fixable. The shops I've worked probably would've replaced the quarter but you probably can knock it out and pull it as much as you can and rework it with filler, just don't put the filler on too thick. You might want to invest in a stud welder. You can get one at Harbor Freight for about $100 I believe. Good luck with the fix bro.
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Psychoteen101
Thas is very fixable actually. Ive seen worse. Its nice that it doesnt look like the paint is too damaged either. If you do some looking around, find a body shop or paintless dent removle that can fix it, if they are good enough, it shouldnt be a problem. I wouldnt suggest doing it yourself. An ametuer pounding out the dent probably wont come nearly close enough. Then youll end up using a lot of bondo and repaint.
LOL at the paintless dent removal bit, have you ever worked in a body shop? Auto detailing doesn't count by the way. There is a crease in the quarter and the damage goes to the body line around the glass. Please click out of the paint and body forum until you have some experience under your belt, a PDR guy would charge this kid through the nose to even attempt it, the guy that came to our dealership did AMAZING work, but he charged about $35 or more for a little parking lot ping about the size of a quarter.

Originally Posted by kimlover1
It's fixable. The shops I've worked probably would've replaced the quarter but you probably can knock it out and pull it as much as you can and rework it with filler, just don't put the filler on too thick. You might want to invest in a stud welder. You can get one at Harbor Freight for about $100 I believe. Good luck with the fix bro.
Definitely go with what this guy says, stud welders are awesome, but instead of slide hammering it, pull outward on the stud and then tap the high spots around the dent. It'll ease the dent back outward instead of slamming it back out, running the risk of over stretching the metal or tearing a hole in it.

Either way you will be bondoing this, no way around it, the paint will crack or flake. If you take the time and do it right and make sure the lines are good everything will be mint dude
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Like I said, ive seen worse pushed out without a lot of filler used. If you take it to someone who actually knows what they are doing, its not impossible. I personally dont know how to do it, but i know the best guy in the midwest for removing large dents like that. Takes a lot of labor and experience to fix something like that without using "primitive" tooling such as stud welding. 90% of body shops wont fix this the correct way cause it is the most labor intensive... Its obvious thats the type of body shop youve been workin in ^^^
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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How is a stud welder primative?

And the correct way to fix this is to put a new quarter panel on it, not popping the dent back out. If you don't personally know how to do it, then don't post up, I don't really care if you know the best PDR guy in the midwest, the metal here is VERY stretched now and I doubt even HE could get it back to normal. The metal around the tail lamp pocket is dented, the metal around the wheel arch is damaged, this could NEVER be PDR'ed.

It's also clear what kind of body shop you've been working in...none.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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If he doesnt know if its fixable, he shouldnt be trying to fix it in the first place. Just cause you cant remove the dent, doesnt mean its impossible.

Installing a new quarter panel would cost more than removing the dent.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Psychoteen101
If he doesnt know if its fixable, he shouldnt be trying to fix it in the first place. Just cause you cant remove the dent, doesnt mean its impossible.

Installing a new quarter panel would cost more than removing the dent.
It's impossible to remove this dent with a paintless dent removal method.

Quote me, I'll stand by these words until proven wrong. Next time you try to criticize the "type of shops I work in", know which shops I've worked at, which you don't. I'm not some backyard tinkerer, this was my living for 50 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, for the past 6 years.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain Marko
It's impossible to remove this dent with a paintless dent removal method.

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agreed, even the greatest pdr guy wouldnt be able to do a damn thing with that. I mean the guy who comes to our shop does some miracle working on cars. But damage like this needs straight up manual labor bodywork, or replace it, thats what Id do. But that damage is fixable. just gonna need some time and some skill.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain Marko
It's impossible to remove this dent with a paintless dent removal method.

Quote me, I'll stand by these words until proven wrong. Next time you try to criticize the "type of shops I work in", know which shops I've worked at, which you don't. I'm not some backyard tinkerer, this was my living for 50 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, for the past 6 years.
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agreed, even the greatest pdr guy wouldnt be able to do a damn thing with that. I mean the guy who comes to our shop does some miracle working on cars. But damage like this needs straight up manual labor bodywork, or replace it, thats what Id do. But that damage is fixable. just gonna need some time and some skill.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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no way I could fix this with some dry ice, hair dryer and bathroom plunger ;P
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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The stud method is how the body shop linked to progressive, was going to fix it. Replacing the quarter was just too expensive. But instead of tapping it from the back, they were going to anchor the car down, and use a system of chains to yank the dent back out. Sounds like a nightmare trip to the dentist almost. Lol.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Its deffinatley fixable without replacing the quarter as long as you find a shop that knows how to play with metal and dosent just throw a bunch of filler.the body shop i worked for reworked some dents like that.They would of pulled as much as they could out and cut the sections where the metal became too stretched to go straitthen hammer/dolly the metal as strait as possible reweld and filler.
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