Tracition... Help
04-03-2008, 12:21 PM
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Tracition... Help
Posted in the suspension forum with no responses... maybe some NW Brothers and Sisters can help me out.
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04-04-2008, 01:44 PM
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Re: (NA425DragSter)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NA425DragSter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea and da also have factory traction bars. some what like the aftermarket ones eg-dc-ek dosn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow.. i didnt know that. You think that could be the issue or at least part of it? The shocks and springs are only temporary, but i think it would be safe to assume that without traction bars i would still have similar issues even if i had a better suspension setup correct?
Sorry but my suspension knowledge is limited...
Wow.. i didnt know that. You think that could be the issue or at least part of it? The shocks and springs are only temporary, but i think it would be safe to assume that without traction bars i would still have similar issues even if i had a better suspension setup correct?
Sorry but my suspension knowledge is limited...
04-05-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: Tracition... Help (Numba1 B Series)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Numba1 B Series »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Play Gran Turismo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have, but what does that get me?
i have, but what does that get me?
04-06-2008, 09:34 AM
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Re: Tracition... Help (ArchEnemy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ArchEnemy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i have, but what does that get me?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Traction for your car.
i have, but what does that get me?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Traction for your car.
04-06-2008, 04:47 PM
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Re: (JayK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What setting are your shocks at? What are the spring rates of the springs?</TD></TR></TABLE>
shocks have been adjusted bit by bit over the last week to see if it makes a difference... and havent noticed a change in what im talking about... The rate are 450 in the front and 281 in the rear. i think thats 8kg and 5kg... not sure.
Modified by ArchEnemy at 7:30 PM 4/6/2008
shocks have been adjusted bit by bit over the last week to see if it makes a difference... and havent noticed a change in what im talking about... The rate are 450 in the front and 281 in the rear. i think thats 8kg and 5kg... not sure.
Modified by ArchEnemy at 7:30 PM 4/6/2008
04-06-2008, 06:27 PM
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Re: Tracition... Help (Numba1 B Series)
so i threw the kyb shocks that were on the car before, and still have the same issue...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Numba1 B Series »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Traction for your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for being a douche
Modified by ArchEnemy at 7:36 PM 4/6/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Numba1 B Series »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Traction for your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for being a douche
Modified by ArchEnemy at 7:36 PM 4/6/2008
04-07-2008, 05:57 AM
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Re: (ArchEnemy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ArchEnemy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The rate are 450 in the front and 281 in the rear. i think thats 8kg and 5kg... not sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy jeebus those are stiff. Keep in mind that you lose droop travel of your suspension the stiffer the springs get. In your situation, it sounds like you are "catching air" over some of these rough bumps, resulting in you losing traction.
What kind of no-name springs are these? They sound suspiciously like coilover sleeves...
Modified by abawp at 7:04 AM 4/7/2008
The rate are 450 in the front and 281 in the rear. i think thats 8kg and 5kg... not sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy jeebus those are stiff. Keep in mind that you lose droop travel of your suspension the stiffer the springs get. In your situation, it sounds like you are "catching air" over some of these rough bumps, resulting in you losing traction.
What kind of no-name springs are these? They sound suspiciously like coilover sleeves...
Modified by abawp at 7:04 AM 4/7/2008
04-07-2008, 08:55 AM
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Re: (abawp)
i dont remember the name, when i bought the car it had cut springs 
so i just bought some cheap ones to throw on temporarily... ill just deal with it deal i purchase a better deal. Thanks
so i just bought some cheap ones to throw on temporarily... ill just deal with it deal i purchase a better deal. Thanks
04-07-2008, 10:04 AM
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Re: (ArchEnemy)
FYI, these are what I was talking about:
If you have something like this, you can install "helper" springs, which are really REALLY soft coil springs. These softer springs are typically installed in most name brand coilover kits (H&R for example) and provide proper droop travel when the suspension is unloaded.
If you don't have these, but rather a standard lowering spring, try going with ones that are progressive rather than linear (neuspeed makes progressive rate springs FYI). These get significantly stiffer the more they are loaded up, so initially they can be soft enough to provide adequate droop travel.
If you have something like this, you can install "helper" springs, which are really REALLY soft coil springs. These softer springs are typically installed in most name brand coilover kits (H&R for example) and provide proper droop travel when the suspension is unloaded.
If you don't have these, but rather a standard lowering spring, try going with ones that are progressive rather than linear (neuspeed makes progressive rate springs FYI). These get significantly stiffer the more they are loaded up, so initially they can be soft enough to provide adequate droop travel.
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Just make sure you get an isolator to go between the "helper" spring and the main spring. Usually made out of rubber, the high amount of friction will keep the parts firmly in place with no risk of slippage
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