Here are some of the pics our Honda/Acura customers have given us permission to share:

 

 

 

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Not bad but I'd like to see them in some HID projectors.


wont the bulb's life be shortened because of the added wattage...?

I know people that would "boost" some bosch ballest and the bulb would get extremely hot. He figured that since there is a lot more strain on the bulb, its life would decrease.

 

I see much less with those on....what is the real benefit in using those if I can barely see.

 

Yes, an HID system boosted from 35 watts to 50+ will have a greatly reduced life, both the bulbs and the ballasts.

That being said, most of the light coming from the setups in those pictures does not look very good at all. My hella bi-xenon projectors (low end HID projectors) with standard 5-year old 35W ballasts and 4 year old bulbs lights up more of the road than those first 2 RSX's.

Also, what makes an HID setup digital or not digital (analog)?

 

I see you are a PnP hater, which I understand but there are a few things you should know. We have been doing retofits for years using OEM equipment, so there is nothing new you are telling me.
First off, people are still going to buy HID kits, and if they are going to do so whether you like it or not, at the very least we can provide them with the best quality and the most precise output that is available from a PnP system. Many people do not have the cash flow to buy the equipment for a retrofit, or don't have the time, or something of a mix of both. In the same respect, a misaligned or over-tweaked retrofit can worse than a PnP kit! We routinely use these D2s systems in our retrofits as well.
Digital means the ballasts use digital signal processing for output control which increases efficiency, longevity, and accuracy of output. As a matter of fact, these ballasts perform to a higher standard than the brand new OEM matsushita we carry, which perform even better then the coveted Hellas. At least these are truly waterproof, have instant hot-restrike, and a lifetime warranty. Wish I could say the same for all the Hella ballasts we used to use.
When you boost an OEM ballast, normally people are boosting over 50watts because they have no idea what they are doing. And yes, running bulbs over wattage does decrease the lifespan, so does under running them. That is why these use not only 55w ballasts but also 55w bulbs, they would not have a lifetime warranty if they did not. When a ballast is built to run at 55w from the start, and since they are digital, they don't overheat, and certainly not to the point where they melt themselves apart like a boosted OEM may. The ballasts stay at the most warm, and a 55w bulbs driven at 55w still runs about 100*F cooler than a standard halogen bulb.

 

hmmm I think what you're calling a "digital" ballast is referred to by the rest of the world as an electronic ballast. Electronic ballasts are used on many commercial HID and fluorescent lamps when dimming capability is required or when they are subjected to cold weather, where conventional ballasts don't do very well.

FWIW my Philips LVQ-212 ballast is quite capable of instant hot restrike, although it's not very good for bulb life. They're not waterproof, but if they were, how would the electronics inside the ballast get proper cooling and venting?

*edit* looked into digital ballasts a bit more, and it looks like some of the newer OEM ballasts are indeed digital, but they are also extremely slim, like less than 1/2" thick. So why do your "digital" ballasts look to be exactly the same size as my 5-year old Philips LVQ-212's?


Modified by PatrickGSR94 at 11:32 AM 12/14/2007

 

So you a technician...you dont have a degree in engineering...I do...enough said...

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The best quality made in CHINA...damn I am even more impressed...uneducated people will buy those hid kits because they take your words for it...

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First off, people are still going to buy HID kits, and if they are going to do so whether you like it or not, at the very least we can provide them with the best quality and the most precise output that is available from a PnP system. Many people do not have the cash flow to buy the equipment for a retrofit, or don't have the time, or something of a mix of both. In the same respect, a misaligned or over-tweaked retrofit can worse than a PnP kit! We routinely use these D2s systems in our retrofits as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

obviously you never did a soldering job on a BGA or FPGA did you? I work at telecommunication & instrumentation company using digital and analog parts as an electrical engineer....do you know how to calculate 55W??

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsx-ct &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you boost an OEM ballast, normally people are boosting over 50watts because they have no idea what they are doing. And yes, running bulbs over wattage does decrease the lifespan, so does under running them. That is why these use not only 55w ballasts but also 55w bulbs, they would not have a lifetime warranty if they did not. When a ballast is built to run at 55w from the start, and since they are digital, they don't overheat, and certainly not to the point where they melt themselves apart like a boosted OEM may. The ballasts stay at the most warm, and a 55w bulbs driven at 55w still runs about 100*F cooler than a standard halogen bulb.
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listen I never bashed on hid kits nor do i hate you...I have been working as an engineer for 10 years...I have more experience in electronics than most of the people....I truly speak from experience....do you know how hard and expensive it is to get a product approved??? thermal testing, Configuration management, reliability testing, Noise and vibration testing and so forth....and every part has to meet the minimum requirement for life expectancy and obsoletion requirement as well...these kits are not is what I am telling you...otherwise they would be OEM...

 

Instead of jumping to conclusions, maybe doing research first would be the way to investigate something that if which you do not understand.
The "slim" ballasts you see advertised as digital are digital, but they also have a very high failure rate, and even though they are digital the control is extremely poor on them if you have ever seen them operate. Nothing like watching bulbs jumping up and down in brightness as they are in ramp up, the control is very poor. The size, there are OE digital ballasts that are of all shapes and sizes, there is not a requirement to be slim to be digital. However, the cases they are built in an easily sourced, low cost mass produced case. Sure, they look the same on the outside but they are all different on the inside. What you are concluding would mean that all the ballasts that have the same shape must all also be produced by hella/philips as well, which we both know is nothing of the truth, but they do look the same.
The ballasts are potted inside with a thermal conductive potting compound, just like the better of OE matsushita ballasts. It not only waterproofs, it conducts heat.
Saying your ballasts have instant hot restrike but it also damages the bulbs means you don't know what it is. Hot restrike means it does not allow excessive starting current upon restart of a warm bulb, hence it limits the amount of over current damage.

 

What do you mean I'm a technician, did I say that or are you too drawing conclusions that suit your imagination? How do you know I am not an EE? I never said you were or were not, didn't even question it! I am willing to bet I spent more years in education than you have, hold a higher degree, but that doesn't prove anything so there really is no point to questioning anyone's integrity. My point to bringing up our experience with retrofitting was only that the OEM standard (brand new OEM, not the used stuff on ebay) is our gold standard to whcih we measure our ballasts against. Once again, you can take one of our Matsushita (maybe you have heard of Panasonic/NAiS before since you are EE) ballasts and compare it to our DIGITAL and come to your own conclusions to which actually operates better. In terms of quality, we have replaced the same number of ballasts for both brands, that would be 0.
You do not know where they are made, but if you want to assume China, you can do that. Fact is, lots of stuff is made in China, some products are great some are just **** poor, the **** poor is what everyone focuses on though. Do you own a digital camera, most likely most of it was made in China. Cell phone... China, or Indonesia. PDA, HDTV, DVD, DVR....
All I can tell you is two things, we used to have a contract with a US manufacturer for a similar ballast type, and well they were not up to par with what we required and we paid considerably for the investment. We have a contract with our manufacturer for production of our goods, so they produce what we give them to produce under our specifications, we don't simply import whatever some Chinese manufacturer wants to sell.
If uneducated people listened to what we said, they would consider doing retrofits more often. However, they are more likely to fall victim to the vendors on ebay selling a $12.50 kit that is made in China and not abcked by any real warranty, and is indeed crap.
To calculate wattage is volts*current, unit efficiency is measured by output wattage/input wattage.

 

wow your ballasts sound like the heavenly answer to everything. How come all car manufacturers aren't using them if they're so awesome?

Got any links to third-party info (or any unbiased info) on these "super" ballasts?

 

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Because cash is king. If we did not have a manufacturing contract we'd also be at the mearcy of the manufacturers that make the kits for $12.50. We pay a lot more per piece than the el cheapo do, generally our production costs are more than retail on a lot of kits.
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We have entire threads of nothing more than praise for the quality and customer service, and they a publicly available to any interested.

 

IF kids can't afford/have time to do a retrofit (or anything properly for that matter) then they shouldn't do them at all.

 

Oh people you do forget, retrofits are just as illegal as PNP kits....

Seriously why bother attacking a seller? Yes he sells the product but do you think assaulting him with text will make him not sell something that makes money with a high demand (people wonder why there are so many drug dealers... as said "cash is king")?


I understand the argument and have been blinded by people using pnp kits, I've also been blinded by OE hid's, miss aimed headights (both hid and non), lifted trucks, people running their high beams and so on.... I realized long ago that it's not worth my time to lecture people on what is right or wrong (specially on a forum board) since in the end people will still do what ever the hell they want (and yes I do see the irony of my comment...).

 

If you were an EE you would say so...and basically you claiming that these are superior than OEM....How can you claim something if you have no intimate knowledge of the topic....I can talk about traffic laws and tickets but since I am not a lawyer my arguments have little impact....but Since I am an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER I can talk about what is exactly needed for a product to be an OEM and the quality and design and many more...

Your experience is based on opening some headlights and putting projectors inside them...So you did NOT do any circuit design, testing, prototyping boards, populating the boards, testing the boards and do some actual retros on a circuit board...how can you talk about quality of a product if you did not see the some/entire process...its acquiring parts for your boards, selecting the parts, populating boards, testing boards, writing codes for your digital parts, and redoing these all over again to get it working....Have you actually done any of these?? if you do then I believe you....I do these for a living....

wow people can rest assured now since they are quality products made in China....I dont want to go there...but like you said "lots of stuff is made in china"
and your products are made in china only thing is that they are quality made...what a relief...

LOL, why do you think US is recalling china made toys...they all had specs as well...it's in the company's best interest to cut cost...so they used cheapest paint they could purchase....do you have any experience in corporate world??
most people dont have several hundreds of dollars to do retro...yet they have money for the plasma and LCD tvs, HD DVD's, blue rays, Wii, PS3, and rolex...people really dont see the danger of hid kits and only want to spend little on lighting....

 

I have not told what my titles are, I don't think that really describes my talents, acheivements, or purpose. I know what EE stands for you TWIT, you don't have to spell it out! You have no idea what my background is, yet you question everything blindly from your high horse. For your information, the corporation that does have me on payroll requires someone in my position to have not only EE training, but also ME, and CE and a very sound proven scientific background, in application, my focus discipline happens to neuroscience biology. Not one high-throughput application we design or build is OEM, and they simply have to work.
You assume if it is not OEM it is not quality, I don't understand why that is? We make lots of quality products and services available to our clients, it is not all OEM. You assume quite a bit actually: you assume the parts are made in china, but I did not say that. You assume that we did not design them, you assume we did not prototype, you also probably assume I am just some punk kid trying to make a quick buck like all the other HID retailers.
Well, here are my assumptions: You are a stubborn fool who only believes their self-fulfilling truths, you have a narrow scope of reality and focus on the majority only to which everything else is judged, and instead of moving on with your life you choose to waste our time here making assumptions.

Have fun, the pictures are there for the people that wanted them there, that was the only point here.

 

your purpose is to promote your business and selll your products here....still you did not answer any of my questions...didn't you say that you did retros for years???? and that is your coporate paycheck?? you don't make any sense Its American nature to blame others...you keep going around in circles....if your products are quality made, then why can't you tell us where, how, and who made your quality but not OEM parts???

if your expertise is in neuroscience biology, how in the world do you know about electronics???? that entitles you an expert on electronics?
shame on you...I earned that title ....not like you

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Not to mention. If your kits were THAT good. The pictures would prove it. So far, all they show is that your product sucks.

 

cmon guys give him a break. I've yet to purchase a single item from this guy but as a long time member of clubrsx, I can vouch for his products and services.

For almost a year now I've been wanting to send in my RSX headlights for a retrofit and even though I've yet to spend a dime with retro-solutions, he's always spent time to answer any questions that I had. I've yet to hear a single complaint over at clubrsx about this guy.

Furthermore, for the price of this hid kit, you really can't go wrong. Just because it's made in China doesn't automatically mean it's crap. I'm typing this post on a $2000+ Macbook Pro which was also made in China... In fact, I'll be putting in my order for a 4300k set once the bills are paid off.

So what if he's not an electrical engineer. This guy is legit and backs his product up with a solid warranty unlike a lot of retailers on the internet.

 

I never called him names, he did...I only asked questions that most of us would ask...where are they made, are they made in china, he claims to be someone when he is not...you can go to jail pretending to be a doctor and a lawyer but not an EE and that sucks...

but i never said screw him...besides if he is in neuroscience biology, how can he be retrofitting for years as a main job? he never said they were made in china as well...he makes no sense...

 

I think it's about time this was locked up.

 

Hold up there buddy, where did I make any claims to be someone I am not? You assumed I was an EE, which I told you am not by practice, but I do in fact have degrees in engineering and neuropsychopharmacology. I do not call myself an electrical engineer because I am presently employed as an applied biotechnology scientist in neuroscience and I also own a business. If you had a masters in education and still worked as an EE, would you be a teacher or an engineer?
I will most certainly not tell you or anyone else where the ballasts are made, what manufacturers we contract with, etc. as that constitutes intellectual property and protects my investment in the product. Certainly an real engineer in the corporate world such as yourself would know the implications of intellectual property. Since there seems to be an issue with reading comprehension, they are not made in China.
Yes, I have in effect two jobs, many days I may work 20 hours at total. Most nights I go to bed after 2am if I have a lot of orders to process and emails to handle. It must be easy to do a lot of nothing and point fingers all day, but I'll be sure to post here when we replace the first ballast for any reason other than a front end collision.

 

All out of popcorn but I read half the thread.

Happy Holidays Guys