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Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block?

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Old May 13, 2001 | 04:19 AM
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Default Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block?

I was wondering if this has ever been done: Is it possible to "stroke" the B16A (1-series JDM 10:2CR) to 1.8L with a B18C block? Would it be a straightforward swap or is there a technical snag to this approach?
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Old May 13, 2001 | 05:52 AM
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sounds like fun
stroke....stroke....stroke....
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Old May 13, 2001 | 08:40 AM
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There should not be a problem simply swapping in a 1.8 vtec block between your Si tranny and head. Get yourself a good block and a new set of gasgets, have a comparable shop do the work. You won't be "stroking" anything, because you have not altered the crank, but you will have a motor with more displacement and a spare B16a block to sell or save for another project.

If you wish to attain more displacement (40cc) by using an LS block (1.8 non-vtec) and altering your head to be fitted onto the block, you will be looking at more work, time and money. HTH

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Old May 13, 2001 | 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (92Si)

Could you just use the b18c crank and rods in your b16??
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Old May 13, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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no b18c and b16b block are taller then b16a therfore you can NOT just put the crank and rods to make a stroker of b16a with (b18a/b/c parts)....

b17a crank and rods do work in a b16a making it 1.7 (1650cc vs. 1595cc)....since b17a used b16a block...

by using b18c block and crank/rods adding b16a head is whats called a poorman's ITR (same as type R motor)....just remember that using the b16a head in GSR (b18c) will yield lower compression...therfore swap your b16a pistons to get it back .....


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Old May 13, 2001 | 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (eg6ajk)

I don't know if I would exactly say that an LS/VTEC 'is the same' as a stock typeR motor. Although the LS/VTEC offers excellent power potential, the powerband and rev-ability of the motor are not 'exact' making them not 'the same'. Currently building an LS/VTEC, I sometimes wonder if I should just spend the few extra dollars and pick up a JDM typeR motor...

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Old May 14, 2001 | 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (92Si)

so basically your putting your b16a head on a b18 block sounds pretty strait forward to me
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Old May 14, 2001 | 04:24 AM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (hybridxcivic)

Sounds interesting, what does a B18C block go for these days?
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Old May 14, 2001 | 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (Brandon Chun)

b18C blocks are getting hard to come by, if I could find one complete for under $800 I would pick it up... some areas will have better prices.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (eg6ajk)

The b16b block is different then the b16a block? I didn't think so.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 07:33 PM
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Yes, the B16A and B16B/C blocks are completely different.

The B16B/C block uses the same casting as the B18C blocks do. But they use the B16A crank, just longer rods.

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Old May 15, 2001 | 09:14 AM
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And higher compression pistons...
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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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Hey thanks AJ and 92Si...I thought I pretty much had all the honda engine info down. Good to know there is more to learn.

I wonder what kind of hp and Tq gains one would see by using a b17 crank in a b16a motor??


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Old May 16, 2001 | 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (HXMan)

Probably what a B17a makes for horsepower
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Old May 17, 2001 | 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Stroking a B16A by swapping B18C block? (InstantRamen)

is the .2 differnece in compression ratio between the GSR pistons and the b16 pistons that much of a difference?

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Old May 17, 2001 | 06:03 PM
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hehe.....
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