Need help with deciding engine swap.....
Aight here's my big question. I have a 99 Honda Civic EX automatic, and I've been doen some research on converting to manual but it's gonna cost too much. I don't want to get rid of my car cause it's my first car that I purchased for myself...the thing is I'm thinking of putting a B16A Sir II auto. engine into my 99 it is said to have 170 hp and 113 lbs. torque, with 10.4 compression (don't want to drop a H22, still want the power steering and A/C ). If anyone can tell me of a better engine or way to get more horsepower without converting to manual I would appreciate it but, if you have any suggestions please feel free.
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Do more research. You can keep both of these with an h swap.
Do more research. You can keep both of these with an h swap.
swapping a B16 to a D16 is not very bright if u ask me. For the money u spend on that swap u could have the engine rebuilt, bump the compression ration, install a more aggressive cam, and be at or more horsepower and torque than your B16. Personally if u are going to swap. Go B18, B20s, or H series IMO.
You can keep automatic by going with the B20B and putting a B18C Vtec head from a GS-R or an ITR. Low rmp torque and high rmp hp. Worked very well for a friend and its what I'm doing right now. Hope this helps.
I originally wanted a GSR engine but I'm kinda new to the whole engine swap thing and I didn't know that you could take the head of a b16 with a b18 block or somthing like that, but I really want to have a nice looking ride with some power behind it you know. Thanx for all the info.
Prolly not what you want to hear, posting in hybrid and all, but i'd say turbo.
Sounds like you're a little unsure as to what you want to do, and may be getting involved with more than you want to as far as a full-on swap goes.
Even if you bought a "ready-to-go" turbo kit it'd be what, $3,000-$3,500 (not the most accurate estimate...not a big turbo guy) and you could most likely push 6 psi w/out breakin' a sweat. Definitely make sure your motor is running up to snuff BEFORE you turbo, or you will kick yourself later. (maybe)
This way, if you get power hungry, you can start doing internals etc. if you find that you want to get more involved and jack up the boost.
I would DEFINITELY vote against an auto b16...ESPECIALLY in a 99 EX...it is a torqueless wonder, and i know because i have one...it's a rev happy motor that will not really be much different than your stock motor for the first 60-70%+ of the rev range, plus i'd imagine it being damn hard to keep it in the powerband in an auto.
Yes, you could do some sort of "frankenstein" swap, but that is not only $$ but work also. Mucho dinero unless you plan on doing it yourself.
Bottom Line? If you like your car the way it is and just want some more kick and power for around town cruising, and some high-rpm zing, go turbo.
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Sounds like you're a little unsure as to what you want to do, and may be getting involved with more than you want to as far as a full-on swap goes.
Even if you bought a "ready-to-go" turbo kit it'd be what, $3,000-$3,500 (not the most accurate estimate...not a big turbo guy) and you could most likely push 6 psi w/out breakin' a sweat. Definitely make sure your motor is running up to snuff BEFORE you turbo, or you will kick yourself later. (maybe)
This way, if you get power hungry, you can start doing internals etc. if you find that you want to get more involved and jack up the boost.
I would DEFINITELY vote against an auto b16...ESPECIALLY in a 99 EX...it is a torqueless wonder, and i know because i have one...it's a rev happy motor that will not really be much different than your stock motor for the first 60-70%+ of the rev range, plus i'd imagine it being damn hard to keep it in the powerband in an auto.
Yes, you could do some sort of "frankenstein" swap, but that is not only $$ but work also. Mucho dinero unless you plan on doing it yourself.
Bottom Line? If you like your car the way it is and just want some more kick and power for around town cruising, and some high-rpm zing, go turbo.
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Thanx for tha info. So if I do go turbo on this engine, do you think any of the internals would be damaged after a couple of months. I mean it's only a SOHC pushing only 127 hp. That sucks. Everyone tells meah to get the same car as mine but an Si (stick and all)! But this is my first car that I've purchased myself and I aint goen to get rid of it that easy. But thanx for the info. Keep em' comen, the more the better.
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