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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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If anyone could please help me...i'm stranded 1200 miles from home with a hole in my block. i think the #4 rod and the cylinder got into a fight, and the rod won. I'm in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and am originally from Wisconsin. can anyone help me find an engine? i want to put in either a b16 or a b18, either w/ v-tec. anyone???
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Ok, you're stranded from home 1200 miles away in your car?

But you want to swap in a B16 or B18?

Not making sense bro.

I would get a D series bottom end assuming you have a 95 Civic in your sig with the stock motor.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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Yea dude right now I'd just be looking for a D series bottom end and not worrying about a B series.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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when was the last time you met a guy named Gretchen? "bro" making no sense...

i drove to texas, in my car, my home is 1200 miles away in wisconsin. i was in my car when the rod in cylinder #4 got into a fight with the rest of its environment, and punched its way out. hence, now, i have a gaping hole where a bunch of aluminum should be. i considered measuring the brake specific aluminum consumption of my engine, but it was just too damn hot out. car went broke.

i am now stuck at the people's house whom i was visiting, but i was supposed to leave texas to go home to wisconsin this afternoon. since i have to replace my engine, i do not wish to buy another d-series, put it in, drive home, and be upset because i had to R&R an engine and got no gains out of it. call me childish, but i'm not about to pull one engine and put the same piece of powerless poop back in. i just don't see the point in sweating out in the Texas sun for an entire day, paying over $500 for a d16 when i could buy a b16a2 and put that in, in roughly the same amount of time, for a nominally larger amount of money. i was simply wondering if there was anyone in the area who could direct me to a reputable supplier of honda engines and drivetrain components.

sorry if i sound a little bitter, but this hasn't been one of my best days. i do appreciate you taking the time to consider helping me, but i'm hot, cranky, and car-less...this is as nice as i can manage to be at this point in time.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Call up all the local shops to see if they have any in stock.

Tony at Jotech, Phillip at Intecrew. There's a few other good shops around.

Also call Honda-Heaven....they've usually got a few b18b's , GSR's, b16's etc in stock.

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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I say you swap a fresh y8 block in and turbo it. then you'll see some power
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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When you do go to buy a new engine, don't tell them your story, you'll sound desperate and they will charge you A LOT because they know you're in a rush.

Personaly, I would get a new block. Then turbo as stated above.

But do what you want, I wish the best to you bro.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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are you really being serious here?

The whole concept of being over a thousand miles away and even considering doing a swap and then just going on your merry way is ridiculous. Are these people going to be cool with you staying at their place for a few weeks while you do this? Is your wallet going to be cool with all of the bills you're going to run up?

Just get yourself home. Go to enterprise, rent a one way van, go to uhaul, rent a dolley, and drive. Once you get home you'll have plenty of time to find a motor and do it right.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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actually, i am quite serious. these people i'm staying with are cool with however long it takes. they're called "family" and it won't be for a couple weeks. and my wallet? i don't have one. i have a business loan officer with whom i have a very good relationship. besides, back home, a v-tec motor, regardless of which one, is rare and relatively expensive. i called the import salvage yard that i do a lot of business with back home and he told me that he could get me a b16 for the same amount that i bought the entire drivetrain for from honda heaven. i have all the extra parts i need coming from one of my distributors in california to the house i'm staying at here. this isn't a couple week deal, either...MOST of this will be done in one day...all of the mounts have been taken apart within the past three months between installing the a/c belt and the tranny swap, so i'm not concerned about seized bolts... i know we can get the d16 out rather quickly, and the last time we dropped an engine into an EG, it took less than half an hour with three people to get the engine bolted into place and plugged in. i don't see how this job, with the right preparations could take more than 2 or 3 days, unless something goes majorly wrong. then i call Mr. Banker...

the uhaul would be more inconvenient than this. my bf and i can make the trip one way in 20 hours. we've been down here and back once, and back down here again by ourselves. now we have to make the trip back home with a 5 year old and a 6 year old, who are going to have to stop every other hour to pee, nevermind that we'll be averaging about 35 miles/hour less with the truck than with my car, and spending over twice as much in gas. and as talented as i like to think i am, i'm not making a 25-30 hour trip only sleeping in the truck, or taking two days and staying overnight in a hotel. ever drive cross country? if so, and you've stayed overnight somewhere along the way, how ominous has that second day seemed? not something i want to do.

so yes, i'm serious...maybe a little unconventional, but serious.

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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are you a girl or gay? just wondering b/c you referred to your bf. I assume you don't have a job seeing as you can just stay down there for a few weeks. What kind of shady business loan officer is giving you a loan to swap a motor into your car? Unless you own a shop and that is a business vehicle, which I am seriously doubting.

You swapped a motor in half an hour? How many people on here do you expect to believe that? If you have all of these "distributors" then why did you make this post in the first place?

Yes I have driven cross country. Are these two kids yours? If so and you have to stop every other hour to pee, I don't see how being in a uhaul makes that any worse than in a honda. I also don't see how you think you will average 35 miles/hour less in a car than a truck, unless you normally drive over 105mph wiht kids in the car.

Anyway, best of luck to you. It is good that you are with family and they don't mind how long you stay. I definitely agree that it is a 2-3 day job at the most "with the right preparations." Don't understimate just how long that last part can take.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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My sincerest apologies to everyone on this forum...besides the individual it is directed to, trbob16a.

I didn't want to post this on Honda-Tech for several reasons. First of all, this is relatively off-topic. Your last post was rediculous, since you were so quick to criticize without actually reading ALL of my post. Also, I don't think that everyone there should have to read this, and I figured I would save you the embarrassment of being put in your place...you obviously don't know where it is. Unfortunately, you don't have your email address listed, so I must apologize to the other members of Honda-Tech who will end up seeing this. I just find it frustrating when someone doesn't take the time to read all of what you wrote and insists on bitching at you anyway.

As I already stated once before in this thread, I am female. I'm not gay...if you would have read my signature, my name is Gretchen.

Yes, I do have a job. Two, actually. One is Sales and Marketing Director for Family Cinema in Manitowoc, WI. Fortunately for me, I had all of the work done for the following month before I left to come down here. I'm not missing any work there. My other job is that yes, I do own a shop. Again, read my damn signature. And the car? It is primarily a business vehicle. I don't think giving someone a loan to swap a motor is shady...several people have done that and have brought these loans to my business for the swap. Have a little faith sir, your limited life experiences are not the general rule in this world. You can get loans for fun things if you have good credit. Doubt what you want...

I also didn't say I swapped a motor in half an hour...it's a shame that you know how to use a computer but still can't read...I thought your screen name meant "turbo B16A"...I guess it means you're name is TR-Bob and you're only 16. What a shame. To save you the excessive effort of having to look back, I said, "it took less than half an hour with three people to get the engine bolted into place and plugged in." Sorry if I was a little vague, but I figured what I said wouldn't be misconstrued as I pulled one motor, sorted the harnesses and mounts, cleaned everything up, changed the oil, filled the coolant and tranny fluid, did an electronic tune-up, dropped the new one in, hooked it up, put together the shift linkage and the exhaust, and every other detail in half an hour. I wouldn't believe someone if they said that either, but notice I also said that there were three of us. Once you comprehend what I said, it makes it all the more believable, doesn't it? Sorry it took a very broken-down explanation for you.

Concerning my distributors...Many places that need tax and employer identification numbers for verification of an actual business do not ship things to residences. Sometimes they will, but at list prices, which must suck for you to have to pay, but I will not. I am a dealer (retail store) and do not pay list prices, but to have this luxury, I cannot just demand that my distributors to send me parts to various addresses...starts to look kind of underhanded from their point of view, I imagine. Fortunately, I have a good enough relationship with one who was willing to send the extra parts to me where I am. Now, my current situation leaves me far from my business, so, yes, I could have had something shipped there at a great price, but what good does that do me here? I bet you can figure that one out on your own! I posted this because I am not from this area, and was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction on where to find a good engine at a good price. Thanks for your help. I can see your humanitarian side is over-whelming, considering all the help you have provided me.

The two children are my bf's, but that is entirely beside the point. I never said that the children having to pee makes the difference in the uhaul versus a honda. I compared it to not having them with us at all and making the trip over 20 hours. I bet your ACT score on reading comprehension was way above average. The 35 miles/hour difference comes in from the fact that some states have laws where large trucks (and I'm leaning toward the safe side on assuming that these laws include uhauls that are towing cars) cannot go over 55 or 65 miles/hour. Compare that to the average 85 or 95 miles/hour that we drove, mostly within the flow of traffic, the last three times we made this trip. And no, I don't drive over 105 with kids in the car, but if the flow of traffic is doing 90, I'm not going to endanger them even more by going only 65. When did this become about parenting skills?

Thanks for your wish of luck; I'm sure it was very sincere and heartfelt, judging by the rest of positive things you had to say. Also, thank you for your advice on how long this engine swap is going to take, because I've never done this before! I own a speed shop and have no idea about engine swaps. I've never ran into a technical or mechanical problem and solved it before. You know, I'm not even sure if I know how to use a ratchet!!! I'm just a really dumb girl with a cool car that a shady loan officer gave me money to dump in it.

Why don't you take your wonderful attitude and amazing comprehension skills and go back to memorizing the breast sizes of all the import models they interview in Import Tuner Magazine...


Modified by S8P-tuner at 4:27 AM 7/12/2003
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 01:12 AM
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Well Gretchen...that was well played...

So your intended stay at your "family's" house was extended by a few days....order up an engine from Steve at Honda Motors Online.818 723 2572..he makes sure youre sensors and engine come with everything you need...save the timing belt clutch, and mounts (wich they provide at added $). He can get you an engine in about 2 days Motor Cargo.

I hope that you get your engine and your trip home goes without a hitch. Drive Safe..and no more red lining your Honda on the freeway!!
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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Im gonna have to disagree with you there Racer. Yes, ordering from Steve is very reliable and you will have nothing but a positive business experience with him (i certainly did), but with compression testing, cleaning, and all that, I think 2 days is a little bit of wishful thinking, dont you?

I think she will be better off hunting around the local Texas area for her motor needs.

GL, Gretchen, and touche on the response, very classy.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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Thanks guys...it took quite a bit of self-restraint not to just come out and start telling that guy how i really felt...

I did find an engine...I got a J-spec B16A2 from Honda Heaven. I'm just waiting for it to come in. They're supposed to get it on Tuesday, so I'll get it Wednesday or Thursday. I'm hoping on Wednesday, though...I'm going out to the hobby shop probably on Tuesday to pull the old motor. I can't wait to get it apart and see what kind of ****-shape it's in! wait a minute...i guess maybe i'm going out there today...who knows. i just got an update from the family. maybe not. maybe i'll just go out and cruise around in my rental Lancer ES!!! damn, that car sucks...my d16 would have kicked its ***...
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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so... why did you make this thread again?

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so... why did you make this thread again?

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because shes bored in the projects spending her welfare checks on jdm motors.

what the hell would possess you to name a company SECTION 8 ?
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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This thread is a joke. So you own a shop and you decide to post on Honda-Tech asking where to get an engine? Especially since you are at your family's house and have a computer with internet.

I'm not "treating you unfairly" because you are a girl, I just think you are attention whoring because you expect to be leg humped as soon as you post anything that says you are a girl, which you have mentioned in like every thread.

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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let's see...i posted that i'm a girl cuz some guy asked if i was a girl or if i was just gay. i didn't post this saying "I'M A GIRL! PLEASE HELP ME!"

Note from previous post: "I cannot just demand that my distributors to send me parts to various addresses...starts to look kind of underhanded from their point of view, I imagine. Fortunately, I have a good enough relationship with one who was willing to send the extra parts to me where I am. Now, my current situation leaves me far from my business, so, yes, I could have had something shipped there at a great price, but what good does that do me here? I bet you can figure that one out on your own! I posted this because I am not from this area, and was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction on where to find a good engine at a good price." I looked on the internet, but why buy one there for the same price that one could be laying around down here for, pay a few hundred dollars more in shipping, and have nowhere to turn when a part is missing? If you read my first post, which it seems you did, I was asking for help. You obviously have none to offer, so why post-*****?

j.fuggi: What's wrong with Section-8 Performance? I know the first thing you probably think Section-8 is is low-income housing...do you know what the military thing is that our country has? They have this thing called a "section-8 discharge." Look it up since you have so much damn time to spend on the internet picking apart posts...but I suppose we could've named our shop The Racer's Edge, or HyPerformance or Extreme something or other...god forbid we do something different... What's the name of your shop?
Bored? yes. I know two people here and they are both over the age of 60. That doesn't leave me with an exciting guide on where to have a good time here. I also didn't have a car for a few days. but welfare? I hope you were joking...I wouldn't know the first thing about where to even go to get welfare, assuming I'd ever need it...sorry to let you down, but i'm not a bum.

This thread is a joke? at least my signature doesn't say i'm in love with some stupid bitch i'll never meet...

I've also just come to a revelation. I've been on one of the hyundai forums for over a year now, and they always rip on honda people. I always defended them. Now, after half of the people i've encountered on here, I can see why they think all of you are ********. Most of you don't have a damn useful or even decent thing to say. what the hell are you here for?
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Holy crap....what's everybody's problem????

Jeez, I can't believe I'm reading all of this crap.

Good luck on the swap, Gretchen. Honda Heaven is a good group of guys, they'll get you a nice engine

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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Its starting to seem like lately everyone has been really trying to pick at what people say instead of trying to help them with their problems. Howz about we stick to being informative and helpful and not so critical and useless?
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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i'm with AudioFuct on this one...but i sometimes feel the need to defend myself...sorry for being a dick.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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i hope she makes it out of here alive, good god
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S8P-tuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...sorry for being a dick.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO!!!

Come on Guys...where is the love I once saw here when a person needed help? I feel you Gretchen..I was in a predicament kinda like that....I ended up towing the car from LA to Tucson..but I could have swapped....
Good luck with the swap
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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damn, dude...what did the tow cost ya? i probablly don't want to know... thanks for the defense, man.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Make sure that you have everything you need for the swap. Nothing sucks more then sitting round and waitin for a part that you looked over (trust me I know )
Good luck with the swap!

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