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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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hey guys within this month i plan on to start my H2B project.I have a 88 civic dx hatch i had a gsr swap now time to step it up & go H pretty much i got a list ill show you guys/girls & if you see anything wrong or somthin to add chime in thank you. please no flaming/bashing i have searched. i think i got a good list to get me startred just wondering if i missed anything or you guys reccomend a diffrent way of doing somthing.

upper D series alternator kit ESP(i will be retaining t belt cover i know ill have to cut the frame to get the pulley to fit)

kaizenspeed bs eliminator kit

cut the pulley

remove iab help with hood clearnce

accord fuel rail(i have a B&M fpr will it fit all 90-93 rail?)

440 injectors

mod lower control arm

QSD kit "if they ever answer"

h23 tensioner swap "all new gaskets & belts"

act 8.8 flywheel ,i did hear somewhere that you can only use aluminum do to the spacer they use is this tru?

egr block off

act clutch hd 6 puck

valve cover catch can

da rear bracker

hasport mounts & linkage




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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys within this month i plan on to start my H2B project.I have a 88 civic dx hatch i had a gsr swap now time to step it up & go H pretty much i got a list ill show you guys/girls & if you see anything wrong or somthin to add chime in thank you. please no flaming/bashing i have searched. i think i got a good list to get me startred just wondering if i missed anything or you guys reccomend a diffrent way of doing somthing.

upper D series alternator kit ESP(i will be retaining t belt cover i know ill have to cut the frame to get the pulley to fit)

kaizenspeed bs eliminator kit

cut the pulley

remove iab help with hood clearnce

accord fuel rail(i have a B&M fpr will it fit all 90-93 rail?)

440 injectors

mod lower control arm

QSD kit "if they ever answer"

h23 tensioner swap "all new gaskets & belts"

act 8.8 flywheel ,i did hear somewhere that you can only use aluminum do to the spacer they use is this tru?egr block off

act clutch hd 6 puck

valve cover catch can

da rear bracker

hasport mounts & linkage


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that flywheel will work good

email qsd to order your h2b kit
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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thanks. just emailed them hopefully theyll get back to me soon
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know ill have to cut the frame to get the pulley to fit</TD></TR></TABLE>
No cutting of frame needed.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B&M fpr will it fit all 90-93 rail?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can only use aluminum do to the spacer they use is this tru?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true.

You'll also need a header, modified to fit a H2B swap, obd0-obd1 conversion/ECU with Hondata or Neptune so you can get it tune afterwards...
and don't forget axles and a halfshaft from a DA...
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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i found this guy tread & it showed to retain stk cover in the EF its a must https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2079719 is there another way around this ????

ahh the header yes im unsure right now on what im gunna do.use stk one & make a bottom half, buy ebay & mod it right now i just dont see spending a G plus on a header thats almost the price of the motor lol unless i could get ahold of camp1320 but his site is down & i dont know how to get ahold of him i beleive his header is in the 500 range

my car is already obd1 runing chipped p28 with chrome pro need to just mod the harness for the H.

im also runing ek civic SI axles & halfshaft sry i left that out i had a gsr swap b4 this.

thank you for your help
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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you dont have to do that

you can cut the inside of hood out and put about a 2" spacer in back of hood




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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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are you talking about removing the iab plate?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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no the valve cover
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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you can cut the hood like this



or you could space the hood up in back like this

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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i think ill go with pic number two even my B swap wouldnt fit witout it being spaced one inch with hasport mounts so whats another one to two inches more.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think ill go with pic number two even my B swap wouldnt fit witout it being spaced one inch with hasport mounts so whats another one to two inches more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow you spaced the hood for a b-series motor in a ef

i had hasport mounts and az-race mounts with no mods to the hood at all with b-series motor in my crx
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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yup me & a buddy both bought mounts in the same month. we both cut a lil of the hood & spaced about 1 inch up with usdm hoods.called hasport about it & said they redesinged the mounts for the axles to be even straighter i dunno how tru it is but thats what we got from them.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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thats stupid

and hasport cost to damn much

you could get other brands for half the price
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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just to show ya but that was leaving it almost scraping the valve cover.

I guess ill worry more about the hood once its in BUT back to other stuff for now ...keeping the timing covers is there anyway around cutting the frame from the one guys thread i dont see away.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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you don't have to cut the frame if you remove the bs you just have to hit the frame in some about a 3/8" to 1/2" with a hammer a big hammer (3lb min)

you need to but one of these part# 30965A213 from http://mcmaster.com
and put it on the outside of the crank pulley and timing cover you don't need it but if you want it on there you have to mod

and when order your alt kit tell them you want the upper inner kit
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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what do you mean by moding the cover?like whats involed? cuz that guy didnt move his pulley in thats why he had to cutt the frame bcuze he wanted to keep the covers.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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by cutting to it fit

you have to move the crank pulley in to the motor so you dont have to cut the frame
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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hmm i think im catching on lol sry been doing the B series for 5 years almost now all this big motor movin stuff doin this doin that is a over load lol but will be well worth it. thank you for helping & being calm lol

any other info or what not chime in guys thanks
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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look in the h2b/f2b FAQs at the top there is a alot of info in there
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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I was really set on keeping my stock lower timing belt cover, so that's why I didn't move my crank pulley in.

88ed8 has done it, and several others, personally i just don't have the *****. Lots of rock and whatnot on my roads.

BTW, i just took a stock down pipe, heated it up red hot with some torches, and bent it with a big pipe.

EDIT - you plan on running the same trick that most of us have been doing with the lower control arm / radius rod?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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yeah i really wanna keep my cover lot of rocks plus a hr drive to the track. so ill more then likly keep it.do you think theres anyway of moving it in & triming the cover?OH by the way did you have to mod the frame at all where the alt. sits now i seen you made your own but i guess id be ording the upper D "but not moved in"

& yeah i saw 88ed8 lca mod & spoke with him about it month or 2 ago about it ill end up doing it that way im asuming you did yours the same???
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by the way did you have to mod the frame at all where the alt. sits</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you don't slide everything inward a 1/2" you will have to mod the frame....
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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you can still keep your timing cover if you move the crank pulley in you just have to cut it around the crank pulley and cut the humps off where bs pulley sit

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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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kool thanks for all the info guys.if theres any small stuff or any random stuff keep it coming.i finally got ahold of qsd they got plenty of kits & called n got the hook up from steve "HMO" soo ill be buying all within the week mostlikly then ITS ON
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NABeastRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i really wanna keep my cover lot of rocks plus a hr drive to the track. so ill more then likly keep it.do you think theres anyway of moving it in & triming the cover?OH by the way did you have to mod the frame at all where the alt. sits now i seen you made your own but i guess id be ording the upper D "but not moved in"

& yeah i saw 88ed8 lca mod & spoke with him about it month or 2 ago about it ill end up doing it that way im asuming you did yours the same???</TD></TR></TABLE>


I only had to hammer a small dent for my alt. clearance, but hey, i made my own bracket lol.

I also did the same thing with my LCA, running the radius rod on the underside
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