ok, so i did a serach but i couldn't find much about this. i am going to buy a series 1 b16a engine for my '89 accord lxi. i know i HAVE to buy the new motor mounts for it, but my quesiton is, do i HAVE to buy anything else? because i heard from some people that this is almost a direct swap , and all i need is the motor mounts and the engine itself. so will HAVE to buy a different tranny, or an ecu, or axles or anything else like that? please give me as much detail as you can, and if i do need any further parts, where is a good place to get them from?

 

I PM'ed this guy to get exactly what he did.This is the same swap.
When he gets back to me i'll let you know.

 

that picture above looks like a 89 civic but he asked for an 89 accord....
maybe I'm wrong...though...

 

Dude, I was thinking about the same thing for my old 88 LXI coupe. I dont think youll be able to do the B16 swap without causing a major headache. But I have always wondered if the 88-91 Prelude 2.0 DOHC (from the SI prelude) engine would bolt directly in. I believe that engine has 140ish hp - not sure tho, never did much looking into it. Major hassles for the B16 in your situation will be shift linkage, axles, and engine mounts. However being that the Prelude has a very similar chassis, (and you may have to dig deeper into this) my guess is that alot of the stuff will swap from the prelude to the accord.

Just my opinion, the B16 is of course a stronger engine, but dont discount the Prelude DOHC engine, it still has a decent bang, and will be ALOT cheaper I bet, and easier to find.

 

That motor is in this car 86-89 Accord four door sedan

 

[qoute]Major hassles for the B16 in your situation will be shift linkage, axles, and engine mounts[/qoute]

Why the tegs of the same time share the same bay?

 

Meaning the B16A or the DOHC 2.0 Lude engine?

Im just saying - it seems to be a hassle to try to put a B16 into the accord per the fact that not many have done it. Im not saying its not possible, nor am I saying for a fact its going to be a hassle. Im just basing it off my judgement to the fact that axles and linkage arent going to match up. And the LXI is a 2 door coupe as far as I know, and is longer than the Integra or the same model year.

Im not saying dont do it. All im saying is that consider other options as well, and try to find some good info on it before ordering an engine that may not work

-ty


[Modified by Shift!, 10:05 PM 3/9/2003]

 

Check this site http://www.3geez.com it's all about 3rd gen's and has some good info on swaps, i used to own a 89lxi a looooong time ago

 

when i had my old 89 accord lxi, i also looked into a swap for it...

...what i learned?...sell the old fart...hehe

IMO a b16 would be under powered to pull that heavy chasis

 

that is NOT an Accord engine bay! it a civic engine bay I know cause I just went outside and compared everything in that picture with my EF and it's an EF no doubt.

 

Really? I just figured the headlights were enough to tell

 

THe above picture is a 88-91 EF chassis CIVIC/CRX - you say anything else youre smoking crack sir

Sorry but that car is a JDM Accord LX-SI or something special only sold in Japan-and I am pretty damn sure they didnt come with B16's


[Modified by Shift!, 7:52 PM 3/10/2003]

 

That's because it's not a "common" swap and requires some creativity on the part of the installer.

Correction, you HAVE to use some sort of stock mounts and fabrication to make it fit. You would also HAVE to make a custom shift linkage, wiring, etc.

If that were true, don't you think you would find a lot more information about the swap?

Like most swaps, you will HAVE to use basically the entire B16 motor/tranny/ecu and custom mounts/brackets and a good bit of wiring. Just ask yourself if it's worth it before you start.


[Modified by VTECVillain, 11:52 PM 3/10/2003]

 

VTECVillian -

What about the 2.0 DOHC Lude engine? Do you know if it will be a direct swap in? Im curious to know, because I always had a hunch alot of the stuff may be the same between the 2 cars

 

I know three different engines were in the 90, 91 Si prelude I wont even mention the S model, but the b20 has 135 hp and 127 lbs/tq and the B21 has 140 hp and 135lb/tq. However, i dont know if one of those two engines will bolt in to your car and i'd say it's not worth it either way.

 

Place Racing makes mounts to put a b16a into the 3rd gen accords. Do a search. There is a mb (I don't remember the address) with a couple guys running this setup and links to their pages.

 

those 86-89 accord aren't that heavy. about 2300-2400lbs for the 4dr sedan. my dad has one and my skinny 7yr old sister could push the car on neutral. i know place racing does swap for those year accords and they put in 88-91 prelude motors..

 

here we go:
http://www.geocities.com/b16aprelude/index.html

prelude and accords almost same thing.

 

God that kills me I definately said that wasn't an accord but ok...thanks 92b16vx you're right

 

For the b16 swap into the 3rd generation accord, it takes quite a bit of money. You need mounts from place racing, which run around $650 from them. You also need the wiring harness (around $250). You will need to send your wiring harness to place racing so they can modify it to fit the b16a. You also need the tranny mount along with the axles, shift linkage and some other odds and ends from them. Other then that the b16a actually fits nicely in the engine bay. A 3rd gen sedan with a b16a will run high 15's from what I have seen. Its not a very common swap because the 3rd generation accord is quite distant from the import world. If your accord is carbed (which the 3rd gen LX and DX's are) you have a whole different story ahead of you. Converting to EFI specs is far from an easy process and is going to require a lot more work. Overall its quite expensive like any other swap can be, but if you love your 3g, then its worth it :D



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