All Motor Creation
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All Motor Creation
Tell me what you guys think about this and if you have any coments on a certain part please explain why... thanks
1992 Civic HB ( Daily Driver )
B18C1 GSR block-bored to 81.5mm
B16A SI Crank-for the Desired 1.74 R/S ratio
B18C5 ITR Head or GSR-Skunk2 Retainers, Springs, valves, 3-angle, port matched intake manifold, Port & polished,
JE Pistons 11.5:1 or ?
Rods ?
B16A Transmission-quaife LSD
Skunk2 manifold and ITR TB AEM CAI or TWM ITB's
ACT stage 2 clutch
JUN flywheel
Toda Spec c cams
Toda cam gears
STR Fuel rail
RC injectors 370-440
Hondata S200
DC JDM 4-1
2.5" straight pipe
Greddy Evo exhaust
Modified by AllMotor92EG at 12:55 AM 7/1/2004
1992 Civic HB ( Daily Driver )
B18C1 GSR block-bored to 81.5mm
B16A SI Crank-for the Desired 1.74 R/S ratio
B18C5 ITR Head or GSR-Skunk2 Retainers, Springs, valves, 3-angle, port matched intake manifold, Port & polished,
JE Pistons 11.5:1 or ?
Rods ?
B16A Transmission-quaife LSD
Skunk2 manifold and ITR TB AEM CAI or TWM ITB's
ACT stage 2 clutch
JUN flywheel
Toda Spec c cams
Toda cam gears
STR Fuel rail
RC injectors 370-440
Hondata S200
DC JDM 4-1
2.5" straight pipe
Greddy Evo exhaust
Modified by AllMotor92EG at 12:55 AM 7/1/2004
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I think the whole idea of using a B16A crank in a B18C is just silly. A balanced and micropolished GSR crank will rev pretty much as high as you want without problems. If you're worried, just find an ITR crank. Plus you won't have to have custom rods made.
I would really back down to Toda B's for the 11.5:1 compression, or raise the compression up higher to effectively support the Toda C's. And invest in the Toda valvetrain if you plan on running their cams.
Have you considered a set of GSXR 1000 ITB's rather than the expensive TWM's? Also, have you considered a Fidanza flywheel rather than the way overpriced JUN? The stock fuel rail should be more than able to hold the amount of fuel for this setup and 370cc injectors should be all you need. I would bump up to a 190 lph fuel pump just to err on the safe side.
I can't argue with a Quaife, however for quicker acceleration consider swapping to a 4.785 or 4.9 final drive up from the stock 4.4.
I would really back down to Toda B's for the 11.5:1 compression, or raise the compression up higher to effectively support the Toda C's. And invest in the Toda valvetrain if you plan on running their cams.
Have you considered a set of GSXR 1000 ITB's rather than the expensive TWM's? Also, have you considered a Fidanza flywheel rather than the way overpriced JUN? The stock fuel rail should be more than able to hold the amount of fuel for this setup and 370cc injectors should be all you need. I would bump up to a 190 lph fuel pump just to err on the safe side.
I can't argue with a Quaife, however for quicker acceleration consider swapping to a 4.785 or 4.9 final drive up from the stock 4.4.
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thanks man... How much and how easy will it be to get the GSX-R 1000 ITB on the motor, what kida of tuning will be needed or is it a bolt on and go ? So your saying the B16 crank in a GSR is dumb, but if it has almost perect r/s ratio, isnt that what everyone wants, or will the GSR crank be good engough and still beat the GSR/B16crank ? Any coments on the other parts such as rods ? thanks..... Ohh and the motor could be bored to 84mm and be sleeved (AEBS) but hey $$ ya know
What will the micro polished GSR crank REV to ? I would like something like 9500, the head will be Port polished, 3 angle, titanium retainers, it will handle it, And is it a good idea to port match those GSXR throttlebodies? or leave em stock ? Should I go with The CTR crank pulley ?
Modified by AllMotor92EG at 8:44 AM 7/1/2004
What will the micro polished GSR crank REV to ? I would like something like 9500, the head will be Port polished, 3 angle, titanium retainers, it will handle it, And is it a good idea to port match those GSXR throttlebodies? or leave em stock ? Should I go with The CTR crank pulley ?
Modified by AllMotor92EG at 8:44 AM 7/1/2004
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A b16a crank in a gsr block will give you somewhere in the 1.8x area rod ratio,which i think is overkill.It would basically be a CTR block.A gsr crank in stock form can handle 10k+ rpm..just get it balanced and you'll be good.The gxsr ITB's can just plug in and go,but it would be best to have at least a piggyback afc to help compensate for the extra air and throttle repsonse.With the gxsr itbs,you use your factory intake manifold flange,so it really doesnt need to be port matched.
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The main journals are the same,though the rod journals are narrower on the gsr/type R.The b16a crank will fit,but you'd need custom rods.If you have the choice,just get the hondata.You just need something you can tune a little for driveability.
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Re: All Motor Creation (JDMotive)
SO basically heres My setup:
B18C1 GSR
B18C5 ITR head-stock (no port polish, 3 angle) yet!!
Balanced & Micropolished
11.5:1 compression OR CTR pistons
GSXR 1000 ITB... dont they come with fuel rail and injectors ? or would i have to customize them to have my stock fuel rail or AEM, STR and 370cc injectors or do i just put them on
Hondata S200
Fidanza flywheel
190 Lph fuel pump
B16A SI tranmission
Phantom LSD w/ 4.785 FD
CTR crank pulley
i was thinking about going with Skunk2 Stage2's, cam gears, and thier valve train $$$
wouldnt the cranshaft and the flywheel need to be balanced at the same tim, i mean you cant just add a lightweight flywheel like nothing.... And estimate how much power this thing will have.... i would like something around 205-220 whp and about a 9100-9800 RPM limit or so
Modified by AllMotor92EG at 11:53 AM 7/1/2004
B18C1 GSR
B18C5 ITR head-stock (no port polish, 3 angle) yet!!
Balanced & Micropolished
11.5:1 compression OR CTR pistons
GSXR 1000 ITB... dont they come with fuel rail and injectors ? or would i have to customize them to have my stock fuel rail or AEM, STR and 370cc injectors or do i just put them on
Hondata S200
Fidanza flywheel
190 Lph fuel pump
B16A SI tranmission
Phantom LSD w/ 4.785 FD
CTR crank pulley
i was thinking about going with Skunk2 Stage2's, cam gears, and thier valve train $$$
wouldnt the cranshaft and the flywheel need to be balanced at the same tim, i mean you cant just add a lightweight flywheel like nothing.... And estimate how much power this thing will have.... i would like something around 205-220 whp and about a 9100-9800 RPM limit or so
Modified by AllMotor92EG at 11:53 AM 7/1/2004
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Re: All Motor Creation (JDMotive)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMotive »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The main journals are the same,though the rod journals are narrower on the gsr/type R.The b16a crank will fit,but you'd need custom rods.If you have the choice,just get the hondata.You just need something you can tune a little for driveability.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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