Ok, I just wrote a whole thread but my session timed out as I was at lunch...

Bottom line..

- Daily driver
- No racing or autocross
- Want to maintain stock rideability
- Don't want to go lower than 1" give or take
- Will eventually upgrade to Koni Yellows
- Speed bumps at work, home driveway a little high

So I am torn between Swift or Eibach. Lots of people recommended Espiler's but 1.5" is a little much for me.

I was reading both, Swift and Eibach, product descriptions on their manufacturer websites. Both says these are awesome for daily drivers without sacrificing rideability.

Any final thoughts or recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

 

SWIFT... end thread...

had them on my car for a while... best spring out there...

 

Every thread you voted Swift. Any specifics? I'm pretty much sold on Swift as well for now.

 

I have Eibachs so I'm biased towards them.. either brand should be okay, as long as you don't go w/ knockoffs from ebay..

 

You mentioned this already, but a good alternative is to get the koni's first. you can put your stock springs on the lowered perch of the yellows. that'll lower it .5" but with settling, and the camber it might be closer to an actual .75" if you decide thats not enough for you, you can then purchase prokits and put them back on the stock perch.

coming from an import background, I was always told that lowering on stock shocks is not good anyways.

 

Swift makes THE BEST springs, hands down. I'm not talking like biased opinions here, I'm talking fact. You can read here why:

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...gs-dynoed.html

I'm planning on getting some when the Spec-R's are released

 

Swift

 

im happy with my eibach pro kit.....but i have to agree that swift springs is the best.....

 

haha y would i change my mind... they are the best... ive used them for a while before going with a complete coil system... stock struts are fine with them... the ride is a stock feel with being lowered... actually its a little more aggressive then stock which is good, but not that noticeable...

 

I had the Eibach Pro-Kit on my AP2 with stock shocks and loved them. I drove the car daily 45 miles each way to work as well as tracked it at Buttonwillow on these springs. It's a good all around spring kit that will not sacrifice ride comfort.

Swift Springs - 3 year limited warranty
Eibach Springs - 1 million mile warranty (can't beat that!)

I think that Swift spring write up is a bit biased. Where are all the springs he tested with the actual measurements? Were the springs new or used that were tested? You can't call it unbiased and leave out critical information of the competition.

 

Eibach is more of a lowering spring. Swift is more for performance, not a drop.

 

Eibach is used exclusively in Formula 1 and Nascar. Not to mention American Le Mans, WRC, American Rally, World Challenge, Dirt Modified, Formula Drift, RL Time Attack, Honda Challenge and many other major races around the world. I can guarentee you these teams are using Eibach for performance and not aesthetics.

 

the eibach spring that is used for the S2000 is a little different than the suspension systems in an F1 car...

 

I was just emphasizing a point. What I'd like to know is what makes the Swift springs for the S2000 so good? Has anyone compared the Swift spring specs and rates with other companies? What about longevity? Are the rates going to be the same as they advertise 6 months from now? A year from now?

 

Educate yourself:

http://www.swiftsprings.com/products-sport_springs.html

 

eibach springs are great

 

If you read the link that I posted, you'd have your answers to that.

 

eibach is to lower the car. Swift is for performance.


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Not so sure that Koni yellows are an "improvement" over stock. Good shock, but many OE parts on the S2000 are great as they are.

 

I just took a look at the Swift link provided...I almost fell off my chair laughing. Not only was all the info just a bunch of words with nothing to back it up, but there were about a hundred grammar and spelling errors. How unprofessional can you be? They can't even hire someone to proofread it? Heck, I'll take a hundred bucks from them to do it, and I'm sure that alone will gain them a hundred customers!

Even their graphs are misleading. They use scaling to make their products look much more different than there competitors than they really are.

I don't really know much about them, but based on their website, I wouldn't give them a second look at all.

 

i have the eibach kit and i like it. I heard the Swift is very very nice as well. I think you get best of both worlds with the eibach. Nice drop and nice performance. The eibach springs are fatter in the center, so as they compress you get a stiffer ride.

eibach gave me about an 1" drop maybe a lil more. just make sure you clock your bushings.

 

i'm sorry, i had to bump this to ask, "freal?"

eibach R&Ds their spring kits thoroughly. for "enthusiast" cars they spend quite a bit of time on the track with them, believe it or not. you are talking about the number one spring manufacturer in the world and what they are offering for a honda performance platform. that's pretty heavy.

 

have you been in a S2000 with Swift and Eibach? Thats cool that they are the number one spring manufacturer in the world. That doesnt mean they will make the best every time.

 

what i experience is one person's opinion and in the grand scheme of things matters very little, just as your previous assessment means very little. i never made a claim one versus the other, you did. i'm stating facts about Eibach and their processes. your take on them being made for aesthetics, for "lowering", versus performance is not accurate, especially when talking about a company with a micro fraction of the know-how and overall resources compared to Eibach.

well, you certainly took that portion of my last comment out of context.

if swift springs makes something marginal, who cares other than a few select people. if Eibach makes someone marginal, there are exponentially more people who will be affected negatively. they do their R&D to issue the best kit every time that adheres to the product description, especially for vehicles like the s2k where they specifically do track time to ascertain what works best for the platform. they don't say, "well...ehh, that's decent, it'll do" and move on.

again, i'm not arguing the quality or lack of such re: swift. i don't care about them. i'm debating anyone's claim that Eibach would 1. settle on a spring kit without assuring it is the best overall compromise and 2. would issue a spring kit for looks over performance.

in fact, many times, people don't prefer spring kits in general because they don't necessarily offer the look they wanted, even though the formula for that spring kit will outperform what they think looks better when they slap on any coilover kit.

 

good words sir.