Suspension...?
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Suspension...?
Im deciding to lower my car and notice on the driver rear strut, there's the gas line overtop the strut. Since many of you lowered or changed your suspension, i was wondering how hard or easy is it to take it out? just looking at it makes me not want to touch anything...
thanks for viewing! Any info would really help me. Thanks once again.
thanks for viewing! Any info would really help me. Thanks once again.
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From: Lost Somewhere
Re: Suspension...? (Y2K_S2K)
oz = the ghey, he kisses ppl online. its usually some random dudes too 
as per the coilover install...
you can fit a 3/8 wrench and socket through there. i am pretty sure its a 14mm bolt there. one thing you can do, if you look at the area, you will notice that if you remove the nut, it has a chance to fall down. cover that area with something like tape or a towel. i didn't and luckily didn't drop anything down there. its pretty easy once you figure how to wiggle around those lines. besides the wrench and socket, you can get an angled wrench which is prob the easiest method but it requires having that tool. good luck!
as per the coilover install...
you can fit a 3/8 wrench and socket through there. i am pretty sure its a 14mm bolt there. one thing you can do, if you look at the area, you will notice that if you remove the nut, it has a chance to fall down. cover that area with something like tape or a towel. i didn't and luckily didn't drop anything down there. its pretty easy once you figure how to wiggle around those lines. besides the wrench and socket, you can get an angled wrench which is prob the easiest method but it requires having that tool. good luck!
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Re: Suspension...? (OriginalFive)
You don't need to remove it. Just push the boot aside some. There is room.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OriginalFive »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im deciding to lower my car and notice on the driver rear strut, there's the gas line overtop the strut. Since many of you lowered or changed your suspension, i was wondering how hard or easy is it to take it out? just looking at it makes me not want to touch anything...
thanks for viewing! Any info would really help me. Thanks once again. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OriginalFive »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im deciding to lower my car and notice on the driver rear strut, there's the gas line overtop the strut. Since many of you lowered or changed your suspension, i was wondering how hard or easy is it to take it out? just looking at it makes me not want to touch anything...
thanks for viewing! Any info would really help me. Thanks once again. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (NAallTheWAY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAallTheWAY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No need to remove anything other than the nuts on the struts. It just looks intimidating, but it's not hard at all. Take your time. Don't lose your nuts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
heck, I don't even have struts to remove. I don't even konw one S2000 that has struts.
heck, I don't even have struts to remove. I don't even konw one S2000 that has struts.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Bagel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
heck, I don't even have struts to remove. I don't even konw one S2000 that has struts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What would you like me to call them???
heck, I don't even have struts to remove. I don't even konw one S2000 that has struts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What would you like me to call them???
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Re: (NAallTheWAY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAallTheWAY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would you like me to call them???</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shocks. They are shocks. Struts are based on a different suspension geometry where the strut is a structural support component. A typical strut is on a three point suspension: two points at the bottom on an A-arm and one at the top, which is where the shock is bolted onto the frame. A shock supension, like the S2000, like a Miata, and others, have a lower and an upper control arm, providing four points to the frame. However, the main difference is the shock itself is not a structural component in the suspension.
Make sense?
Shocks. They are shocks. Struts are based on a different suspension geometry where the strut is a structural support component. A typical strut is on a three point suspension: two points at the bottom on an A-arm and one at the top, which is where the shock is bolted onto the frame. A shock supension, like the S2000, like a Miata, and others, have a lower and an upper control arm, providing four points to the frame. However, the main difference is the shock itself is not a structural component in the suspension.
Make sense?
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Re: (Mr. Bagel)
Yeah, if you want to get all technical they are shock absorbers, but every Honda technician, or every person I have ever met period(including certified mechanics at Honda dealerships, Hibdons Tires Plus, Big O Tires, etc.) have refered to integra, civic, crx, del sol, and S2000 suspension as being strut based. I agree with you that, by definition, these suspensions are shocks, but you don't have to jump every persons *** that refers to them as struts because most of this country thinks of a shock as being independent from a spring assembly, such as the typical truck suspension. Damper units that are bolted to the body of a vehicle are usually refered to as struts and damper units bolted to the frame are usually refered to as struts.
By your definition, the DC5 has struts up front and shocks in the back. As do EP3's and EM1's. Until I am corrected by a 5+ year certified Honda Technician(i.e. a good friend of mine named Richard), I will continue to refer to them as struts.
Next time someone says "I got some new rims," I am going to correct them and say that a "RIM" is the lip of the wheel to which the tire is mounted, and I will tell them that they did not get "new rims" they got new "WHEELS." Now wouldn't that be a pointless, dickheaded thing to say.
By your definition, the DC5 has struts up front and shocks in the back. As do EP3's and EM1's. Until I am corrected by a 5+ year certified Honda Technician(i.e. a good friend of mine named Richard), I will continue to refer to them as struts.
Next time someone says "I got some new rims," I am going to correct them and say that a "RIM" is the lip of the wheel to which the tire is mounted, and I will tell them that they did not get "new rims" they got new "WHEELS." Now wouldn't that be a pointless, dickheaded thing to say.
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Re: (NAallTheWAY)
Looks like you took it a little bit too personally.
And personally, I don't really care what a certified tech says. I've come across certified techs that do just what the book says for the 7500 mile S2000 maintenance schedule. You got it: rotate the tires.
This is the difference between having a nominal understanding of what a shock is and understanding how it actually works. If you don't care, then don't ask and please ignore my posts.
And personally, I don't really care what a certified tech says. I've come across certified techs that do just what the book says for the 7500 mile S2000 maintenance schedule. You got it: rotate the tires.
This is the difference between having a nominal understanding of what a shock is and understanding how it actually works. If you don't care, then don't ask and please ignore my posts.
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