Well i went to my first AutoX today at Beaver Run racetrack didnt think i would be to fond of a big lot full of cones being a drag racing guy, but i went and love it im addictated the S2000 is an amazing car and im in love all over again lol anyways anyone have any good suspension/brake tips or recommendations...sway bars,brake setups,etc thanks alot

 

hello kind sir

my recommendation would be to head your local sam's club and buy all their stock of bright orange cones

then, wait til your local highschool ends it's school day, and go on a cone setting rampage

practice makes perfect

 

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It's not easy to improve on the existing set up without throwing a lot of money into it - Honda nailed the set up with the S2000. Coilovers would be a good start - i've personally never had to much trouble with brakes when AutoXing..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello kind sir

my recommendation would be to head your local sam's club and buy all their stock of bright orange cones

then, wait til your local highschool ends it's school day, and go on a cone setting rampage

practice makes perfect</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are one funny ************

 

It really all depends, is this for SCCA? Are you running stock class? Do you intend to stay in stock class or directly make the jump to another class. I just started autocrossing last year with SCCA. There are a lot of options, it just really all depends on where you want to go from here and what your budget is.

 

best mod is to learn to drive the car. hit this up, its normally like 20 bucks and real laid back. there should be a few other s2k's there as well. its good seat time and tons of people there who are well versed on the basics. its not to the level of an EVO school, but well worth the money.
http://www.racepa.com/content/...828.0
its closer to the city than BR. NHSCC is much more laid back and friendly, since they arnt officially under the scca like BR is.


as far as set up goes, keep the car in AS where it is competative. learn to drive it well before you start modding. Ive raced for several years, and still forced myself to drive the car bone stock for a year at both BR and NHSCC to get a feel for it. this year ill be setting it up.

once you start modding, you can follow this for some guidance:
http://www.s2ki.com/Home/index...art=0
I can also give you some insight on whats good when your not on a national budget.
as for swaybar, i can give you the cell and company number of Saner who makes Saner bars (via pm). his bars wont hold up for national level competion with really meaty tires, but are pretty good for a novice.

 

also, id recommend the driver school and the events at NHSCC just because the offer alot of learning potential. the lot has a unique shape and interesting grade where you get a lot of corners that are off axis and make your car want to rotate. It keeps things interesting and adds a different element in comparison to the typical flat lot like beaver. also, beaver is considered an ice skating rink compared to the north hills lot. theres a lot more traction at nhssc.

also check http://www.nhscc.com

 

Yea ill def going to the NHSCC event on the 5th..thanks

As far as SCCA class and the specifics i dont know today was just practice session i guess i need to do some more research on sanctions and class specs before modding thanks for the help guys

 

Was thinking about going with Endless Pads and Fluid with maybe some Brembo Rotors i bought my car brand new (has 2k miles on it now) and think that i might not have broke them in properly cause im not to impressed

 

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You bought your car brand new in 2002 and it only has 2000 miles on it?

 

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You bought your car brand new in 2002 and it only has 2000 miles on it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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2002 S2000 New Love, Traded in on My New New Love 2007 S2000
2006 F4i</TD></TR></TABLE>

Reading&gt;you

 

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Reading&gt;you </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oops. Yeah I've been reading a stupid book all night for my class and I guess I'm sick of reading. lol

 

AP2 FTW

 

Some racing brake pads require some heat in them to function adequately. Hawk HP+'s or some brands of Carbotechs (Not sure which), are really popular for autocross, but squeal and dust like crazy. Stock pads are fine for street tires, but when you make the jump to race tires, they tend to overpower the stock brake pads.

 

Yea which brings up a great point TIRES what do you guys recommend for street/track use these stock potenzas are so *** thinking about BFG-KDWS or Falken Azenis? or anything you guys can suggest thanks again

 

FALKEN

 

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glad you got turned onto autoX. they are lots of fun. they are how i started liking real performance over 'drag racing,' too.

i've been autoXing for 4 years now, but unfortunately only once in my s2000. No clue that beaver run had autoX events too. i would like to go sometime since i also live close. you should look at the southern WV region of SCCA, every summer they have an event at yeager airport in Charleston WV...not too too far from you. 3 hours maybe? but it's worth it. ITS HUGE. only auto x i've ever done that speeds were over 65mph... the z06 vettes were hitting 100+. they always include technical parts in it aswelll though, so it's a great car driving challenge.

As far as your brakes go... you don't need to upgrade rotors. Keep stock blank rotors. there is no way in an autoX ur brakes will get hot enough to justify anytype of aftermarket rotor. plus, blank rotors mean more braking surface. you'd lose braking performance with slots or drilled holes. what fluid you use in an autoX will never matter either, simply because your brakes will never get hot enough to boil your fluid. if you are seeing brake fade because of an autoX u must drive with ur foot on brake the whole time. lol. as for pads, i like the GT Sports from colbalt. i have them on the S and on the prelude i used to autoX a lot. although they work best when warmed up, they still bight a lot better cold than stock pads do.

-if you ever plan to track though, go ahead and get a very high heat brake fluid like SUPER BLUE. you'll never have to worry about boiling ur fluid and losing ur brakes. oem fluid can boil withing 6 or 7 laps if your driving hard enough on the right track

but yes, s2ks kick *** on autoX courses. lots of fun to drive. maybe we'll end up racing in charleston this summer

 

Falken Azenis are cheap, but really they're junk. The get hot really fast and get greasy. Dunlop just released a new tire, the Direzza Z1 Star Spec, which is supposed to be a really good tire. Pretty much, all the fast guys running street tires across all the ST classes are using Bridgestone RE0-1R or Advan Neovas. Toyo just came out with the R1R which has great grip but a soft sidewall.

 

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Brakes are a non-issue in Solo if you have street tires. Honestly, even with R-comps, you'll run out of traction first before running out of brakes. The stock setup is strong and the ABS is very effective.

Bigger rotors help in fade-resistance, but this isn't a problem in Solo. I suggest not modding anything and just work on your driving.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea which brings up a great point TIRES what do you guys recommend for street/track use these stock potenzas are so *** thinking about BFG-KDWS or Falken Azenis? or anything you guys can suggest thanks again
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i've had both those tires- azeni's were awsome but lasted less than 8 months (7500 miles maybe?)

the bf's were not as grippy, but lasted a lot longer. they absolutly kicked *** in the rain. you can drive your car jsut as hard when it's wet as when it's dry and hardly notice a difference. However... THEY ARE WAY OVER PRICED...they only lasted about 10 or 11k miles

the best tires i've had so far were the Toyo T1R's. they were comparative to the bf's but didn't hold up on track as well. for the money though, a very good deal.

running khumo's MX's right now- cheapest tire i've had other than the azeni... pretty damn good grip but i have yet to track them so i can't say how they'll do... for street driving though they are GREAT for the money. but when it rains- hope you are good at drifting

 

hmm just looked up those Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs look like a great tire i think its down to those and the KDWs...As far as brakes everyone other S2K owner ive talked to raves about theres and i think think mine pretty much suck even before the event today pretty sure i was a lil too hard on them to fast and they werent broken in properly..i will also be entering a few flat out days on the North Circuit Track so i think im just gonna do the pad an fluid upgrade with the new set of tires along with some new blank rotors for piece of mind..not to mention the instructor at the track today had the Endless big brake kit all they way around his 350z and im super jealous very sick

 

looking at sway bars but am kinda confused? as to stiffness, mm , and adjustablity needed

 

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I would try and find an adjustable front sway bar to start you out. The stiffer the Front sway bar, the more the rear will stay planted, but also it will increase Understeer. Which ultimately allows you to put more power to the ground on corner exits. I have the Gendron bar, it has 6 adjustment settings and a replaceable solid center element. The only downside is the cost. I think I paid $660 for it, but it is a proven National championship bar.

 

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I would try and find an adjustable front sway bar to start you out. The stiffer the Front sway bar, the more the rear will stay planted, but also it will increase Understeer. Which ultimately allows you to put more power to the ground on corner exits. I have the Gendron bar, it has 6 adjustment settings and a replaceable solid center element. The only downside is the cost. I think I paid $660 for it, but it is a proven National championship bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly.

you should probably wait until after you track and autoX more to see where you are having problems. is the car too 'loose' meaning oversteer? or is it simply a matter of not being completely accustomed to the car yet and mastering ur throttle steering.
even though my ap1 is a car notorious for snap oversteer, i still think honda made a very well balanced car.

you could spend that 660$ on a lot of track time to learn a ton. then you might be faster than the guys out there with several more mods than you. or even faster than cars that should be faster or are faster than the s2000
seat time= best car mod

 

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exactly.

you should probably wait until after you track and autoX more to see where you are having problems. is the car too 'loose' meaning oversteer? or is it simply a matter of not being completely accustomed to the car yet and mastering ur throttle steering.
even though my ap1 is a car notorious for snap oversteer, i still think honda made a very well balanced car.

you could spend that 660$ on a lot of track time to learn a ton. then you might be faster than the guys out there with several more mods than you. or even faster than cars that should be faster or are faster than the s2000
seat time= best car mod

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I couldn't agree more. I guess Instead of modifications yet, get your self a good set of tires and get some seat time. Everyone's driving style is different. Only you know what feels right for you.