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Old May 18, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...03050

i think its gonna be great...maybe it could take out a 350Z now....
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Old May 18, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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WHoa ... i hope it stays mostly the same just with added power.

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Modified by visualvb at 10:13 AM 5/18/2003
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Old May 18, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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Cool info. Should be a pretty big improvement for the S2K
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Old May 19, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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the f20c is fine as it is and it has no issues with competing with the 350z.

and i'm willing to bet that there will be some compromises made to stroke that baby to 2.2.
it's always a give and take
stay tuned
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Old May 19, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the f20c is fine as it is and it has no issues with competing with the 350z.

and i'm willing to bet that there will be some compromises made to stroke that baby to 2.2.
it's always a give and take
stay tuned</TD></TR></TABLE>

I completely agree, im just waiting cuz the 2002 prices will drop considerably(atleast hoping so). I say the redline will be brought down and the "new 2.2-liter engine for more torque and an enhanced interior highlighted by updated instrumentation" is just a marketing gimmick, it is also the same marketing gimmick that kept the s2000 name rather than following the S heritage and naming it S2200 (ie. s600 and s800; numbers referring to displacement)
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Old May 19, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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yes, i frequent s2ki ... nice place.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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You'd also think with this change we'd be seeing an auto-tranny Oh well, maybe that'll just make my s2k more valuable
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Old May 20, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Why on earth would you want to see an auto tranny? That would be abhorent. Its a sports car, if you can't drive a stick get an Astrovan

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Old May 20, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Hey, I agree. I'm just saying.. Auto tranny will probably bring in some cash from the women that say "Oh what a cute car!", and I'm sure Honda knows that now.

Women: Please don't flame me, if you're actually reading this post, it doesn't apply to you.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s2 2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


there are actually alot of guys that dont know how to drive stick too... .....thats when it gets really pathetic..

</TD></TR></TABLE>well I hear of too many girls that couldn't drive stick if their lives depended on it... most common response: "I dont want to have to think when I drive." Well, I guess that would explain why every accident i've ever been in wasn't my fault, and was started by a girl. Guess they were too busy 'not thinking'.
Er, anyways... man, im lookin forward to seeing the numbers this new setup produces. Sounds killer to me.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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To guys that prefer automatic sports cars
To girls that prefer manual sports cars

My wife races our s2k so to her

Anyway, to stay on topic, I think Honda will miss out on quite a bit of potential income by keeping the s2k manual only. Not that I like it, but I think the automatic in the s2k would be a good idea for them, and I think changing to the 2.2 liter will give them to torque to do it.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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About how much is this 2.2L s2000 going to cost???
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Old May 22, 2003 | 03:00 AM
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just hope that i can do a block swap and then it's all good
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Old May 22, 2003 | 05:25 AM
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Block swap????

Stroker kit upgrade
Unless Honda is going to create a whole new engine, then you are going to see a stroked motor similar to the Mugen SS2200 show car. (250hp & 170 tq) It's cost effective.
JM2C

Possibility 1:
Stroke up the F20C (basically a new crank and some mild updates for pistons, rods, cams). Combustion chamber dimensions around 87x92.5 -- this is not as conducive for revs mabey 8500 rpm's (the trade off) Will it adopt an i-VTEC head? Both K-series and F-series use chain-driven cams. I wonder if the heads even line up? (tech info from EG6SiR)

Possibility 2:
Bore up the K20 series to K22??. BUT will it mate to the existing F20C longitudinal gearbox? You know the whole FWD vs. RWD issue. It would have i-VTEC, which would boost torque (as much as many ppl argue for peak power, engines operate over a range of revs unless you're using a CVT gearbox -- more usable power is always good). I don't see this one happening as it would cost TOO much for a mid cycle update.

Possibility 3:
Bring JDM S2000 Type V over and call in Type R, S, whatever. Add 4.44 gears and give US Market all JDM color choices + navigation system. THIS IS MY VOTE

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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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So I guess they're getting rid of the 2 liter from the lineup? At least I'll have a limited production engine.....
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Old May 22, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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block swap still sounds better to me if it's possible and then u do bore and sleeve
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Old May 23, 2003 | 03:40 AM
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I agree...Much better, but which existing block would Honda use that could mate to the transmision????

Mid Cycle Updates of existing platforms = NO NEW BLOCK

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Old May 23, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAFA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...03050

i think its gonna be great...maybe it could take out a 350Z now....</TD></TR></TABLE>

mabey the car will have some torque finally. hopefully they change the gearing on the car as well.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0002S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree...Much better, but which existing block would Honda use that could mate to the transmision????

Mid Cycle Updates of existing platforms = NO NEW BLOCK

JM2C</TD></TR></TABLE>I think he was talking about swapping the new 2.2 block into his existing S2000.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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I can't wait to see the specs on this baby. I'd give up a few rpm's if the stroked 2.2 will give better overall acceleration
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Old May 25, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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i wonder what they meant when they said "updated instrumentation"
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Old May 25, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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I hope it's not dials. I like the electronic tach and speedo...even though some have called it cheesy or 80's ish
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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Digital dials might be cool. Sorta like the APEX'i VAFC monitoring thingy that has the dials.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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Any hp figures yet..?
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Old May 28, 2003 | 04:31 AM
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The specs from back in the concept day said 250 hp. Sounds about right to me.
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