Is there a roll bar available that will still let the soft top close?

I want to buy an s2k but I know I'll end up on the track with it, and many groups won't let an open top car on course without a roll bar.

 

Are you talking about a roll bar or a cage? The S2000 has functional roll bars from the factory (the plastic hoops behind the seats actually cover steel roll hoops). For autocrosses and the like, that should be all you need. If you're looking for a roll cage, the only one I've seen is Mugen's. It's nice as hell too.

 

Here's one that will still allow the soft-top to open/close. Chromoly goodness

 

^^^ that's sweet!

 

Yeah, I went and did a search on s2ki.com. I saw that cage and a few others. Looks like there still isn't a bar that will pass SCCA spec and let the soft top work. I know that cage and a few other bars would work for track days, but I think the SCCA specs are there for a reason and should be taken into consideration when buying a roll bar. I'm going to see if I can't find one that will work with a hardtop. I'm pretty sure solo1 requires a bar and a hardtop anyway. It would just be nice to still use the soft top with the bar installed and the hardtop off.

 

The cage WAS built with SCCA regulations in mind, the only problem with that cage is that with the stock seats, your helmet wont be below the overhead bars by the mandated 2.5"

But once you put in a race seat (stock seats suck anyways) that problem will be solved.

 

that thing doesnt look too bad

 

Pics will be ready soon of buckets installed.

 

vapor, do you guys plan on selling that rollcage?

 

That cage looks great!

Ardy, you have it powdercoated yet?


[Modified by ITRbroham, 5:28 PM 10/2/2002]

 

If you dont know SCCA rules dont post bad info... that cage will NOT be legal with just a seat to lower height, at a minimum it also needs the rear support bars off of the main hoop, nascar bars on the drivers side and door bar on the pass side.. I dont know what the tubing thinkness is on that bar but off the top off my head I believe you need 1.5x.120 atleast to meet SCCA specs.. oh yes, there is no way an SCCA legal cage will work with the soft top since the rear supports go where the soft top is, to be SCCA legal you need to have the softtop removed and the hardtop bolted (not latched) in place.

 

Have you even participated in an SCCA sanctioned event?

 

Go look in your SCCA GCR, that'll answer all your questions so I dont have to repeat them here.

Oh yea, yes

 

EFFECT is correct.

 

there are different classifications for an SCCA approved roll cage in terms of what the car will be used for. I never said this was for wheel to wheel racing, this will pass for SOLO1 (auto-x) and other events not related to wheel to wheel racing, ie time trials. Second, that quote you made about bar thickness depends on the weight of the car. SCCA just upgraded their rules to 120 wall, where it used to be 095 wall for cars under 3000lbs, now in order to run 095 wall, the car has to be under ~2300lbs...yea right. Anyways, again you are right about a required hardtop, but that again is for wheel to wheel racing...not the application this cage was designed for. Sure, you can gut up a s2k remove everything and it would be a dedicated track car, not one that would be driven confortably on the street. This cage was designed for added safty in case of a roll-over as well to aid in chassis rigidity and make it possible to run harnesses saftely via a harness bar without losing the function of the soft-top and cutting up the dashboard or other trim panels. I was never a fan of nascar bars, I'd prefer running X-bars, but that's just me. Anyways, if the cage was designed for wheel to wheel racing, then it would be a different story. The pics shown were taken in july, awhile ago and things have changed on the cage, a few support bars have been added and the rear 2 points are in the works to make this a 6 point cage, all removable in 15 minutes setting things back to stock for warrenty purposes and requiring NO permanent fabrication of the trim panels or car itself.

 

 

good stuff...but i like cusco styles where they curve around the dashboard and under it. :D but then again thats just me...

 

the cusco bars IMO are designed more for looks than for function (ie roll over).