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bhigh 09-14-2011 03:51 PM

roll bar help please
 
well im 6foot 4 and am customizing my roll bar so i can fit comfertly in it on long drives and iv notice 2 of the bar for the rear down bar is next to the gass tank so iv looked for pic and could not find any wer they bolted them down so if any one could help me or show me a pic of thers that would be grate i dont wann drill a hole in my gass tank ow and its a soft top

HondaKyle 09-14-2011 04:31 PM

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I don't think you should be doing all this work if you can't build a proper sentience.

Root of all Evil 09-14-2011 05:42 PM

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bhigh 09-14-2011 08:38 PM

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yes thanks for the grammer help now for the roll cage help

HondaKyle 09-14-2011 09:40 PM

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I really didn't understand what you want to do. Are you trying to modify the stock roll bar? I'm pretty sure the stock one does its job considering its been tested by Honda. If you have a aftermarket one like hard dog or one for show like cusco... just leave it.

apwhat 09-15-2011 04:21 AM

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ug, you had a shop install a bolt in roll cage.. and you want to modify it..

facepalm.

take some pics, I'll try to help you but so far this is sending up a red flag for stupidity and danger.. but I'll hear you out.. lol

Black S2K 09-15-2011 06:58 AM

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should have just got the hardog bar with a low rails and a seat and u should fit fine

bhigh 09-22-2011 03:33 PM

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i didnt want a hard dog cuzz im not gonna spend 900 on a roll bar when i can buy a cf hard top for 2500 i got this roll bar for a cf hood i traded and have to have it for endero race

bhigh 09-22-2011 03:39 PM

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sry i havent been on in awhile

bhigh 09-22-2011 03:44 PM

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thx ap what and sry havent been on but the blue one is the befor and i cut the center beam out and am going to weld it at a slant so i can recline my seat back and i had to bend the bar a lil bit so i can scoot my chair back i have 4 bolts holding the main hoop but only 1 for each side on the back 2 hoops and im afrade of drilling a hole in my gass tank my camra(phone) will not take pic of the back bolts it is to dark so if you could send me a pic were it is ok and not ok to drill or any advice would be grate(outher then spelling ) and i no my welds suck im haveing a pro do them i thought i would try befor paying some one to do them i failed haha

bhigh 09-22-2011 03:52 PM

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ow the ek is 2.1L and the hard top is sexy but slow and any outher cars ask about i thought id show you what im doing and what for its not for looks or to think im a street racer its so i can go to circut events and do thunder hill and orgon kart track and have to have it thx

Black S2K 09-22-2011 07:57 PM

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hard dog is like 650 and accepted at track event state side

HondaKyle 09-23-2011 04:37 AM

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I hope you know that cusco cage isnt approved for anything but hard parking and with how you modified it, I would trust it less. I'm not trying to be a dick but this is your life you are putting on the line. The hard dog is around 600 dollars and is well worth it.

JDM-Punk 09-23-2011 06:07 AM

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agreed... that one tab holding on the rear bars just looks severely unsafe, instead of having 1 giant bar flying around in a accident... you can have 3!

bhigh 09-23-2011 06:35 PM

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That was a temp tack to find out we're the bars need to be and so I could bolt it in I place it is 2 tab and it is not a cussco roll bar and still 600 buks compared to free and sying u did it your self(if it passes) I'm not looking for the safest roll bar I still have oem roll bar I'm looking for passing it in auto x becuz on one track in orgon it has to have one in A soft top the max speed out ther is like 45 so iv herd I don

bhigh 09-23-2011 06:37 PM

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So yes my roll bar is not finished I'm still thinken about just weldding the bar on solid

alphalanos 09-23-2011 07:57 PM

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hard. dog. stop welding all this bs stuff thinking you know what youre doing. how can you be so cheap not to buy a proper bar.

JDM-Punk 09-23-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46069391)
I'm not looking for the safest roll bar I still have oem roll bar

umm the way your wording this, makes it sound like you are fine with knowing you could have a giant bar flying around you in the event of a roll over. your oem bars would hold, yes... but your custom bars could be headed towards anywhere, including your head or another car!

safety is not something to be cheap about, if you really cant afford a proper roll bar, then you probably shouldn't be out there.

JUSTINTHECOASTI 09-24-2011 11:37 AM

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To be honest, for autocross you really dont NEED one, but because you want one so bad, everyone will reccommend the harddog piece. I'm 6'4" and the best thing I did to help with cockpit clearance issues in get a lower seat rail.

TheMuffinMan 09-24-2011 11:57 AM

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:ugh:

I hate the fact S2000's have come down in price and shit like this happens.......

OP, your "roll bar" is not certified or allowed at any half-decent track. It is not a Cusco, but is a Cusco/Safety21 knock off which makes it even worse.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/road-racing-autocross-time-attack-19/cusco-roll-cage-1788507/

I suggest you stop ****ing up your car.

You're whole "I'm not looking for the safest roll bar" is absolutely asinine - the whole purpose of putting a roll bar in the vehicle for track purposes is for it to be safer. Why do you think tracks require something more than stock roll hoops?

Boots 09-24-2011 01:53 PM

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i want to say something dickhead-ish and be an ass, but i am at an absolute loss for words for something that is this idiotic...the best place for the "roll bar" is the garbage, because i doubt even a scrap yard would give you money for that piece of shit

Boots 09-24-2011 01:55 PM

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oh, and fyi, totally digging the pic of your S with the "lube zone" sticker in front of the trailer...stay classy my friend, stay classy

HondaKyle 09-24-2011 10:11 PM

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I've never even herd of S2000s rolling over. besides the one that rolled down the hill and had the Cusco cage that broke and hit the guy in the head. You dont know what you are doing and could have a bar brake off and smash into your skull. I dont even think the cusco would hold up to the weight of the car.

apwhat 09-25-2011 02:09 AM

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ahhh... christ.

first, i honestly would just take that bar out, sell it on ebay, and buy a harddog. As far as fitting issues, but a kirkley racing seat.. very thin, and low.. saves tons of room.

you won't be allowed on most tracks in a hpde, and i doubt your actually doing scca events, auto-x they will let anything in.. but this is just going to snap if you roll over and make peoples job harder to rescue you.

and i hate to comment on anther persons style.. but christ man.. you made a s2000 look like a 89 crx in a trailer park. I would ditch the multi colored rims, ditch the goofy sticker..

rock.
as long as your having fun, but don't forget common sense and saftey

bhigh 09-25-2011 11:54 AM

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that is a camping trailer every body im not white trash( and the multi collored rims are gone i sold them for 1g and bout ap2 rims the offset is better and you are right about the autocross events they dont car about whats in your car azz long azz its bolted down that why i said i was doing it for orgon kart track and hoopa hill climb) and why buy some hard dog roll bar when i can have a pro make me one for half the price and all u criticks on s2k nope its not stock and dont car what u think it looks like, guss what i get paid to race my s2k (its a dd and race car) its called a sponser i get paid to have it on my car i have 4 sponser dont be jelus but any way thank again ap what and why pay for somthing like a roll cage when im doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonnna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if ther not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage cometts but wer i race its point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for sussption then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you accualy drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change

TheMuffinMan 09-25-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46076080)
that is a camping trailer every body im not white trash( and the multi collored rims are gone i sold them for 1g and bout ap2 rims the offset is better and you are right about the autocross events they dont car about whats in your car azz long azz its bolted down that why i said i was doing it for orgon kart track and hoopa hill climb) and why buy some hard dog roll bar when i can have a pro make me one for half the price and all u criticks on s2k nope its not stock and dont car what u think it looks like, guss what i get paid to race my s2k (its a dd and race car) its called a sponser i get paid to have it on my car i have 4 sponser dont be jelus but any way thank again ap what and why pay for somthing like a roll cage when im doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonnna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if ther not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage cometts but wer i race its point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for sussption then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you accualy drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change



That is a camping trailer everybody and I'm not white trash. The multi-colored rims are gone, I sold them for $1,000 and bought AP2 wheels because the offset is better. You are right about the autocross events, they don't care about what's in your car as long as it is bolted down. Which is why I explained it was for the Oregon kart track and Hoopa hill climb.

Why buy some HardDog roll bar when I can have a pro make me one for half the price? For all you critics on Honda-Tech, it's not stock and I don't care what you think it looks like.

Guess what - I get paid to race my S2000, it's a daily driver and race car, it's called having a sponsor. I get paid to have it (no idea what 'it' is) on my car. I have four sponsors, don't be jealous. Anyway, thanks again about why pay for something like a roll cage when I'm doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if their not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage comments but where I race it's point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for suspension then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you actually drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change

I started correcting this ****ed up garbage but gave up.

Stop while you're ahead and try presenting yourself properly when you respond to posts.

Your rollbar is a piece of shit, I highly doubt you are sponsored by anyone with half a brain. People are trying to help you and your safety. A poorly installed rollbar does more harm than good - yours is poorly designed and installed.

*edit*

Added to that, no one cares about your half-price rollbar. You know that old saying "You get what you pay for" ? Your half-price rollbar is half price for some reason - poorer quality materials, cheaper welds, etc. It downright is not safe. Why add the roll bar at all if you're not concerned with safety? Those rules in place at the tracks you are talking about require you to have a roll bar FOR SAFETY. Let me reiterate that, they do not have those policies in place so you can bolt in a piece of shit roll bar to squeak by. They want you (the driver) to be safe.

If you are truly sponsored, then I"m sure one of the four sponsors would be more than happy to pay for a proper roll bar.

JUSTINTHECOASTI 09-25-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46076080)
that is a camping trailer every body im not white trash( and the multi collored rims are gone i sold them for 1g and bout ap2 rims the offset is better and you are right about the autocross events they dont car about whats in your car azz long azz its bolted down that why i said i was doing it for orgon kart track and hoopa hill climb) and why buy some hard dog roll bar when i can have a pro make me one for half the price and all u criticks on s2k nope its not stock and dont car what u think it looks like, guss what i get paid to race my s2k (its a dd and race car) its called a sponser i get paid to have it on my car i have 4 sponser dont be jelus but any way thank again ap what and why pay for somthing like a roll cage when im doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonnna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if ther not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage cometts but wer i race its point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for sussption then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you accualy drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change

Responding from what I understand, dd's and racecars are opposites. If you want a roll bar/cage, purchase(HardDog recommended) or build one that actually works. I understand youre trying to save a buck, but this is something you want that has been tested and engineered for your safety.

Boots 09-26-2011 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46076080)
that is a camping trailer every body im not white trash( and the multi collored rims are gone i sold them for 1g and bout ap2 rims the offset is better and you are right about the autocross events they dont car about whats in your car azz long azz its bolted down that why i said i was doing it for orgon kart track and hoopa hill climb) and why buy some hard dog roll bar when i can have a pro make me one for half the price and all u criticks on s2k nope its not stock and dont car what u think it looks like, guss what i get paid to race my s2k (its a dd and race car) its called a sponser i get paid to have it on my car i have 4 sponser dont be jelus but any way thank again ap what and why pay for somthing like a roll cage when im doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonnna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if ther not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage cometts but wer i race its point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for sussption then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you accualy drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change


riiiight, because when i go camping i take my lawnmower and shed with me too;)

Black S2K 09-26-2011 05:08 AM

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lol nice race car i see ur sponsors r really paying up

HondaKyle 09-26-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46076080)
that is a camping trailer every body im not white trash( and the multi collored rims are gone i sold them for 1g and bout ap2 rims the offset is better and you are right about the autocross events they dont car about whats in your car azz long azz its bolted down that why i said i was doing it for orgon kart track and hoopa hill climb) and why buy some hard dog roll bar when i can have a pro make me one for half the price and all u criticks on s2k nope its not stock and dont car what u think it looks like, guss what i get paid to race my s2k (its a dd and race car) its called a sponser i get paid to have it on my car i have 4 sponser dont be jelus but any way thank again ap what and why pay for somthing like a roll cage when im doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonnna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if ther not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage cometts but wer i race its point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for sussption then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you accualy drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change

If we cant afford to drive our S2000s why would they be coming out for oil changes if we are not driving them in the first place? You're acting like the S2000 is expensive. My engine management and turbo are worth more then anything all your modifications. Pointless comments? People saying your cage is pointless and dangerous are the only thing keeping this thread going or some what tech related. I suggest you enroll yourself in school.

njn63 09-26-2011 12:18 PM

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Just stopping by to say that is the ghettoest roll bar I've ever seen. ****, my Miata cost 2k and I put a hard dog bar in it.

Also, judging by the fact you put that hunk of shit in your car I suggest you don't have a custom roll bar built. Leave it to people that actually know what they're doing.

njn63 09-26-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan (Post 46076229)
Those rules in place at the tracks you are talking about require you to have a roll bar FOR SAFETY. Let me reiterate that, they do not have those policies in place so you can bolt in a piece of shit roll bar to squeak by. They want you (the driver) to be safe.

I can't think of a single track in the Midwest that requires a s2000 to have a roll bar for HDPE. They all consider the factory roll hoops "factory rollover protection" and let it slide.

I think the OP mentioned autocross? I've never heard of a roll bar requirement for autocross... even for a Miata that will kill you if you roll it. Not saying the OP is full of shit because regional rules vary, but what he said would be false in the Midwest. :P

TheMuffinMan 09-26-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by njn63 (Post 46082181)
I can't think of a single track in the Midwest that requires a s2000 to have a roll bar for HDPE. They all consider the factory roll hoops "factory rollover protection" and let it slide.

I think the OP mentioned autocross? I've never heard of a roll bar requirement for autocross... even for a Miata that will kill you if you roll it. Not saying the OP is full of shit because regional rules vary, but what he said would be false in the Midwest. :P

True, I know for the East Coast VIR is an absolute convertible Nazi when it comes to roll bars.

I was mostly basing it off the OP's statements however, so very possible he is full of shit.

HondaKyle 09-26-2011 07:37 PM

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He has four sponsors and we are all poor people. Yet... He is the one driving a stock S2000 with lube zone stickers on the side.

apwhat 09-28-2011 02:35 AM

Re: roll bar help please
 

Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46076080)
that is a camping trailer every body im not white trash( and the multi collored rims are gone i sold them for 1g and bout ap2 rims the offset is better and you are right about the autocross events they dont car about whats in your car azz long azz its bolted down that why i said i was doing it for orgon kart track and hoopa hill climb) and why buy some hard dog roll bar when i can have a pro make me one for half the price and all u criticks on s2k nope its not stock and dont car what u think it looks like, guss what i get paid to race my s2k (its a dd and race car) its called a sponser i get paid to have it on my car i have 4 sponser dont be jelus but any way thank again ap what and why pay for somthing like a roll cage when im doing 45mph around cornner and am not gonnna roll over im, not doing 100mph cornner thats why i dont care how safe it is its point less but it is the rulles so stop making point less comments if ther not to help i did not post this for pep to tell me what i should do with my car and rather they like what im doing i agree with some of the roll cage cometts but wer i race its point less to have one and no its not for looks i like the oem look every thing i put on my car is for performance iv paid more for sussption then my car who cars what it looks like its how it drives and scents im in first place in str i think its a grate car race car) how many of you accualy drive your s2k every day or race it my guss is you cant aford to drive it or it stays in the garage and comes out for its oil change

jesus christ man..
ok..
I'm honestly going to give you the best advice ever.

sell your s2000.. and pretty much everything you own. Take that money and get yourself a start at community college or a local g.e.d class.

I'm not joking. I tutor college kids all the time, and will honestly help you.

Take something like business management/accounting and get yourself a decent job in two years.

After that, and you have no debt, and you can format paragraphs/sentence structure.. not sound like an ambivalent, foolish, s2000 owner...
then you get to play without halfassing the shit out of everything you touch.

bhigh 09-28-2011 12:16 PM

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Don't need classes I might not know how to spell but I can ccount I make 3gs a month doinging hydroponics my self and I live in norcal and lube zone dosent just do oil its a tune up shop I mainly use them for rack timeow andi own 2 houses one I did inherit 1 and the outher will be paid off in5 yrs, and to the guy with the expesive ebay turbo and most deff AEM fuil mangement my tires cost more than that setup so good for you for puting a turbo on your car(if u did it ur self I bet its not even dyno tunned) and you guys aren't getting what I'm saying id rather try it my self than pay some one els to do it so you guys can keep ur s2k tucked in your garages and keep paying em off every month enjoy thx for the help guys

njn63 09-28-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bhigh (Post 46095233)
Don't need classes I might not know how to spell but I can ccount I make 3gs a month doinging hydroponics my self and I live in norcal

Oh shit, 36k a year? I better step my game up. :thud:

Black S2K 09-28-2011 03:20 PM

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damn dude u tires cost that much? and u cant afford fender liners?

HardParkedCom 09-28-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Black S2K (Post 46021556)
should have just got the hard dog bar with a low rails and a seat and u should fit fine

what this gentleman said is right. with an aftermarket seat bolted to the floor, even at ur height, you should have no issues passing a broom stick test with the hard dog bar. I'm 6ft and owner of an s2000 with hard dog roll bar and with the stock seats with a helmet on i'm about an inch under.

apwhat 09-28-2011 07:30 PM

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also.. you spell fuel, FUIL.

DOOD MAN... put the pot down.

ug.. its only gonna get worse guys.. soon s2000's are gonna have home made itb's... some kid is gonna fiberglass a tsx front end...

****... maybe its time i get a nsx... lol


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