damn I was impressed today after we had rolled about 15 cars, how easy it is to tell a quality wheel from a not so quality one... we had a few cars with Advan/SSR/Racing Hart's and a few with Rota's... man; what is a cheap wheel imbalanced/imperfect compared to the more expensive ones, it was so easy to see with the wheels running high speeds of approx 110mph, it kind of scared me out of buying rota's for fun.......

maybe some useless info, but ah well,......

 

do you have any pic of "imbalanced/imperfect" wheels at highspeed for comparison?...assuming the pic you posted is of "high quality" wheels

 

you can't tell from a still shot......

 

what exactly is wrong again?

imbalance wheel? as if the owner didn't put them on tire/wheel balancer when they put it on?

wheel weight came off?

and just to say this one more time rota's quality's is not bad at all.

 

not saying they are bad, but no way perfectly round/shaped in terms of accuracy..

 

Sorry for what I'm going to say, but I would not put Rota's on my S2000, I would on my civic ef, not on the S2000. The S deserves better quality than that, IMO.

 

wow so your saying the wheel isnt perfectly round. well thats a new one to me, i thought all rims were perfectly round. if not then thats something to sue a company for. and ive never heard of such case so........

 

Yeah...if the wheel wasn't round, any tire balancing machine would pick that up immediately.

BTW, you never answered the question in the pic thread...why are your front wheels on the rollers?

 

just saying what we saw with a few guys, even the owner of the dyno said it...and it was not just one set of rota's

and my front wheels are on the dyno because it's a 4 wheel dyno, just imagine simulating road conditions.....all 4 wheels roll....they quite accurately measure roll resistance before the run..

 

Even the owner of the dyno said it? Well now it has to be true!! You are absolutely right. A $30,000 car doesn't deserve, gasp--Rotas!! Yuck!! Even if I were a wealthy man, I would STILL get Rotas for my crappy EF--granted its no where near the same league as your s2000. It must be fun to be a custy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d16dcoe45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even the owner of the dyno said it? Well now it has to be true!! You are absolutely right. A $30,000 car doesn't deserve, gasp--Rotas!! Yuck!! Even if I were a wealthy man, I would STILL get Rotas for my crappy EF--granted its no where near the same league as your s2000. It must be fun to be a custy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

relax dude, you'll live longer..

 

i was talking to my long time mechanic friend and he said that the wheel balancing machines do not make the wheels perfectly balanced, therefor at speeds of over 100mph the wheels start to wobble. He also said that the cheaper wheels have lower tolerances as far as how they are manufactured so that it might not be a perfect circle from inside diameter to outside this doesn't mean that it's something u can see, no it might be like a millimeter off, but at high speed that one millimeter makes alot of difference. The expensive wheels have much tighter tolerances in their manufacturing process and usually do not need balancing when you put good tires on them, but he said that cheap tires are usually the case why wheels need to be balanced because of the same reason.

 

Monte Carlo

 

great...all the Rota sympathizers are gonna gang up on ya... have one on me your gonna need it.

 

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and just to say this one more time rota's quality's is not bad at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

rota quallity is actually quite bad... when they break on simple potholes on the street, it's a bad sign......you get what you pay for....

little money = low quality
more money = high quality

the concept is quite simple...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by salvageland &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was talking to my long time mechanic friend and he said that the wheel balancing machines do not make the wheels perfectly balanced, therefor at speeds of over 100mph the wheels start to wobble. He also said that the cheaper wheels have lower tolerances as far as how they are manufactured so that it might not be a perfect circle from inside diameter to outside this doesn't mean that it's something u can see, no it might be like a millimeter off, but at high speed that one millimeter makes alot of difference. The expensive wheels have much tighter tolerances in their manufacturing process and usually do not need balancing when you put good tires on them, but he said that cheap tires are usually the case why wheels need to be balanced because of the same reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Blah blah, call me a Rota sympathizer, but find me someone who has had problems with their Rotas in the way to describe. Gary Sheehan ran exclusively Rotas on his USTCC WRX without failure (read, thousand and thousands of hard track miles on dozens of different sets of Rotas over several seasons), and there's plenty of H-T people that run their Rotas on track, with no issues. The ones that did have issues cracking their Subzeros or Circuit 8's, had them replaced under warranty, and Rota dealt with it very professionally and never claimed the owners abused them or anything.

Yeah, I enjoy nice wheels too. But your rationalization for having them is pure horseshit. I have a set of JLines that I custom spec'd myself, giving me minimal brake clearances so I can have a huge amount of lip, and they look great. But I also have "beater" wheels that I run on the track. Just because I can afford nicer wheels doesn't mean I look down on the cheaper options available, because I know they're fine, and I would trust my life on them as much as I would with the JLines.

 

I don't have the same dislike for Rota that others do, but obviously they're not going to be in the Volk/Work/Advan quality range. Also, I love Monte Carlo blue

 

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The ones that did have issues cracking their Subzeros or Circuit 8's, had them replaced under warranty, and Rota dealt with it very professionally and never claimed the owners abused them or anything.
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i don't think this really matters if you're in a hospital bed or 6ft under after a major failure....

i'm not saying other wheels might not have failures on the track (because they do).... but rotas ARE more prone to failures....

as an example... if company A makes 10 sets of bad wheels for every batch of 100 sets of wheels but they are cheaper, however they are mass produced (meaning there are tons of sets out there in the public)... and company B makes 2 sets of bad wheels for every batch of 100 sets of wheels but they are more expensive, but are created in limited quantities...... what would you rather have??....

i would personally pick a more expensive wheel (company B) and have a little more piece of mind and not have to worry "as much" about my wheel distructing on me...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow so your saying the wheel isnt perfectly round. well thats a new one to me, i thought all rims were perfectly round. if not then thats something to sue a company for. and ive never heard of such case so........</TD></TR></TABLE>

ROFL.... you're funny.... must not know much about geometry....

it's quite hard to make a PERFECT circle...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by salvageland &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was talking to my long time mechanic friend and he said that the wheel balancing machines do not make the wheels perfectly balanced, therefor at speeds of over 100mph the wheels start to wobble. He also said that the cheaper wheels have lower tolerances as far as how they are manufactured so that it might not be a perfect circle from inside diameter to outside this doesn't mean that it's something u can see, no it might be like a millimeter off, but at high speed that one millimeter makes alot of difference. The expensive wheels have much tighter tolerances in their manufacturing process and usually do not need balancing when you put good tires on them, but he said that cheap tires are usually the case why wheels need to be balanced because of the same reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>
now that you cleared this up i can understand why.

 

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wait ... why are the front wheels on teh roller..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A08_MThrizzle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wait ... why are the front wheels on teh roller..</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, waiting for someone to catch that...

4wd dyno?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A08_MThrizzle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wait ... why are the front wheels on teh roller..</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solsurvivor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just saying what we saw with a few guys, even the owner of the dyno said it...and it was not just one set of rota's

and my front wheels are on the dyno because it's a 4 wheel dyno, just imagine simulating road conditions.....all 4 wheels roll....they quite accurately measure roll resistance before the run..</TD></TR></TABLE>