i searched a little bit but couldn't find any conclusive answers regarding the subject. i am willing to admit it's more for the bling factor than the actual minimal brake increase i may or may not see... but is it possible to retrofit NSX Brakes onto the S2000??? if so... what parts are necesarry??? thanks a lot.

 

as long as you have the brackets the calipers should fit, but im sure its not a 100% bolt on and go.

if im not mistaken, integra calipers OEM and Aftermarket will work on the s2000 with the proper brackets.

 

Rotor offset may be different. Or am I thinking TL calipers?

I saw an S with NSX calipers at Eibach 05. Never got his name.

 

i think it would probably be advantageous as long as they don't have a weight increase... or a significant one at least. the upgrade isn't that expensive..... new calipers with rotors and pads are like $1400. i'm sure i could find a used set of calipers, get some new pads and rotors and rebuild the calipers for about half that.

 

make sure you mate it with a right MC also, you might throw off the balance of the brake if you running different bore.

if you need the math formula, let me know.

actually the Legend TypeII(gs??) have a bigger caliper than the NSX, alot of accord guy been swaping brake long time ago

 

actually they are the same capliers.. the diference is the piston size. however the NSX uses aluminum pistons as opposed to steel pistons on the legend.... the advantage to that is you get quicker piston actuation... not enough to notice on a street car however so that point is moot. anyways... if i need the equation i will let you know. thanks.
jonathan.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s2kb0i &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually they are the same capliers.. the diference is the piston size. however the NSX uses aluminum pistons as opposed to steel pistons on the legend.... the advantage to that is you get quicker piston actuation... not enough to notice on a street car however so that point is moot. anyways... if i need the equation i will let you know. thanks.
jonathan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really?, thanks for letting me know, but i know the gs caliper are bigger, just not sure which part

let's talk phyisc: why does aluminium brake or actuate faster? are you referring to

the same output piston surface area? assuming you are using the same input/MC piston

cool, let's do math upon request

 

i am saying aluminum pistons will actuate faster given the same piston force. not necesarilly brake better or shorter.. simply put, due to the reduced mass it will require less pressure to move said piston. it's essentially the same theory as unsprung mass. it's the same reason Brembo GTR brakes (not to be confused with Gran Turismo Kits) utilize titanium pistons.

 

Titanium has more mass than aluminum, so your Brembo point is moot.

 

ummm...this could be very interesting if they rotors and calipers can fit on the s2k...the nsx is a 2 piston caliper...i was gonna do this on my integra gsr a while back...but i sold the car and got the s2k....

time 2 do some research!!...if i am correct to make this work you would need the nsx or legend calipers + nsx/legend sized rotors to fit the s2k right??

 

hrmmm. Kinda wondering this also cause when i buy a NSX i want to swap my Spoon calipers over to it or just buy new ones. Last i checked Spoon doesnt make them for a NSX and they could possibly fit?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s2kb0i &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am saying aluminum pistons will actuate faster given the same piston force. not necesarilly brake better or shorter.. simply put, due to the reduced mass it will require less pressure to move said piston. it's essentially the same theory as unsprung mass. it's the same reason Brembo GTR brakes (not to be confused with Gran Turismo Kits) utilize titanium pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

heh, good job but no. The reason why they would use titanium pistons is because it wont expand causing your brakes to feel different (I think standard grade titanium expands about 4 times less than common Al grades). Titanium also doesn't conduct heat very well (7-8 times less if I remember right) which would keep the fluid from boiling up since the back of the piston is directly making contact with the fluid.

Titanium is two times as dense but has close to the same strength as the tougher grades of Al like 6061 so you wouldn't be able to make the piston smaller either to save weight.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rotor offset may be different. Or am I thinking TL calipers?

I saw an S with NSX calipers at Eibach 05. Never got his name.</TD></TR></TABLE>

find out his info asap!!! lol...im really wanna know how he made the setup work...and would it be possible to get the nsx rotors and calipers and just bolt them up..

 

it won't bolt-on to s2k..
u'll need to re-drill holes on caliper mount.
u should try the new 06 RL caliper.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LBBP R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it won't bolt-on to s2k..
u'll need to re-drill holes on caliper mount.
u should try the new 06 RL caliper.</TD></TR></TABLE>

have u tried to do this conversion? and y would u need to re-drill the holes on the caliper mount? does it matter if you use the na1 or na2 caliper bracket?

also can an nsx rotor mount to the s2000 hub? are all the bolt patterns the same?

and have u also tried do the 06 RL conversion?

 

i dont see any benefit of doing this, if anything its downgrading,

isn't the nsx share simliar brakes to the itr? s2k's brakes are bigger than itr's

not sure if the newer nsx's are bigger brakes.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverDc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont see any benefit of doing this, if anything its downgrading,

isn't the nsx share simliar brakes to the itr? s2k's brakes are bigger than itr's

not sure if the newer nsx's are bigger brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NA2 NSX uses the same caliper but with a different carrier/bracket enabling it to be mounted to a larger rotor.

 

oh boy here we go with the NSX caliper thing again.....

Dang should i do this again?????

now please tell me why yoyu say it is a downgrade for the S2K by putting on NSX Calipers??

NSX and S2K share similar offsets in the front. i still have to verify the hub offset and diameter.

NSX rotors are 28MM thick with factory vents last time i checked.
ITR's are 22mm's
they are both 11.1" rotors.
which is the same as the S2K if i am not mistaken.
but i do not know the thickness of the OEM S2K rotor.

as well as the NSX being a Aluminum casing and the Legend being a cast casing. both are the same caliper tho.
as well they are both dual piston and the S2K being single piston.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: SnoFlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh boy here we go with the NSX caliper thing again.....

Dang should i do this again?????

now please tell me why yoyu say it is a downgrade for the S2K by putting on NSX Calipers??

NSX and S2K share similar offsets in the front. i still have to verify the hub offset and diameter.

NSX rotors are 28MM thick with factory vents last time i checked.
ITR's are 22mm's
they are both 11.1" rotors.
which is the same as the S2K if i am not mistaken.
but i do not know the thickness of the OEM S2K rotor.

as well as the NSX being a Aluminum casing and the Legend being a cast casing. both are the same caliper tho.
as well they are both dual piston and the S2K being single piston.</TD></TR></TABLE>
mine are 4 piston

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM knowledge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
mine are 4 piston </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

NA2 NSX uses the same caliper but with a different carrier/bracket enabling it to be mounted to a larger rotor.

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i was not aware of this, overall i dont think the cost would be beneficial, i would just get a BBK,

but remember its your car, do what you feel.

 

It was kind of late when I replied.....(I'm in Asia) So I didn't clarify my point in that the NA1 NSX and the NA2 NSX share the same caliper.

NOT the S2k and the NSX share the same caliper.

Again, the difference between the NA1 and NA2 caliper assembly are the brackets only.

The S2k should have a 28mm thick rotor just like the NSX.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was kind of late when I replied.....(I'm in Asia) So I didn't clarify my point in that the NA1 NSX and the NA2 NSX share the same caliper.

NOT the S2k and the NSX share the same caliper.

Again, the difference between the NA1 and NA2 caliper assembly are the brackets only.

The S2k should have a 28mm thick rotor just like the NSX. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if that is correct then it should be a bolt on affair...

the Mugen Goldengate ( name) brake set up they have for ek's eg etc... is a OEM S2K caliper which bolts up...

NSX fronts bolt up when mated to a Legend rotor..... so the figures are telling me it will bolt up... ill get the calipers from a friend and try it out

 

i think the 97+ nsx calipers loaded w/ rotors will fit the s2k...the bolt pattern is the same i believe

stock nsx rotors are Ventilated, 11.7 in (298 mm) diameter; 1.1 in (28 mm) rotor thickness

stock nsx calipers are a 2 piston design and have great cooling...there is a small difference between the na1 and na2 calipers...the brackets are bigger for the na2 which moves the caliper further away...also the piston size is a hair larger on the na2...NA2 Caliper Specs: Pistion Sizes are: 40 and 36 vs NA1 Calipers Specs: Piston Sizes are: 40 and 34

FYI....here are some s2k rotor specs:
Diameter 11.820
Height 1.593
Inside Height 1.348
Hat Thickness = 0.245
Rotor Thickness = 0.990
Rotor center, say 0.500
Center offset from hub face = 0.848

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: SnoFlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if that is correct then it should be a bolt on affair...

the Mugen Goldengate ( name) brake set up they have for ek's eg etc... is a OEM S2K caliper which bolts up...

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I think you meant AGBS.... (Active Gate Braking System)

I think the only reason why the S2k rotor bolts up is because of the AGBS rotor enables the proper offset/clearances due to its hat dimensions that otherwise would plague 5th, 6th Gen Civics with ill fitment if they used a Legend GS rotor.

From a budget conscious perspective this is not a very cost effective upgrade since the rotors themselves are wear items and the calipers are just OEM units done up in gold with Mugen screened on them.

I think if I had to go with a big rotor OEM upgrade. It'll definitely be using the NA2 caliper and perhaps something like the TSX rotor - for the Civic/Integra guys that is...