I know the topic of brake pads has been discussed multipe times, I just searched through all the topics but I didnt see any specific topic on the Axxis pads. I need to replace my front pads and also resurface my rotors. I am not going to get aftermarket rotors or any BBK since I will rarely if ever track the car. I do however have the occasional spirited street drive. I know that the Ultimates are a ceramic pad like the stock AP1 pads so there should not be too much brake dust and they are around the same price for the pair of fronts. I guess my question is am I better stickin with stock or getting the Axxis pads. I am looking for a pad that will have as limited fade as possible, without changing my rotors. I was also thinking about getting the AP2 pads but I know they do have some more brake dust and may work just as well at the AP1 pads. Thanks in advance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeR324 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know the topic of brake pads has been discussed multipe times, I just searched through all the topics but I didnt see any specific topic on the Axxis pads. I need to replace my front pads and also resurface my rotors. I am not going to get aftermarket rotors or any BBK since I will rarely if ever track the car. I do however have the occasional spirited street drive. I know that the Ultimates are a ceramic pad like the stock AP1 pads so there should not be too much brake dust and they are around the same price for the pair of fronts. I guess my question is am I better stickin with stock or getting the Axxis pads. I am looking for a pad that will have as limited fade as possible, without changing my rotors. I was also thinking about getting the AP2 pads but I know they do have some more brake dust and may work just as well at the AP1 pads. Thanks in advance. </TD></TR></TABLE>

oem pads are fine

what i don't get is why you have a hard on for not replacing your rotors? most rotors are throw away, so trying to have them resurfaced would prove pointless. instead of getting them machined, just get new ones.

never understood why people would buy oem or better pads then cheap out on rotors

 

I wasn't trying to cheap out on rotors but from what I have read a BBK will do me no good nor will any slotted or vented rotor. From my understanding aftermarket brakes will only help after repeated braking and these brakes will need to get up to temperature to work properly, so for street driving they do not make sense for me to get. I was planning on getting a DBA (Disc Breaks Australia) BBK but I thought I would be fine with the stock system. Am I correct or am I missunderstanding you, and your recomending that I purhcase new stock rotors and not resurface my old ones. I was told by one dealership that the stock rotors cant be resurfaced, but the current shop I am using insists that I can resurface the rotors.

 

i agree with big brake kits....not necessary

i agree with the shop that says NO to resurfacing your rotors

buy new oe replacements

 

Any thoughts on brake fluid, I was going to replace the fluid when I can the breaks. I was thinkin on going with ATE Super Blue, I don't think I would need to flush this fluid out 2x a year as their website says it needs to be replaced every 3 years under normal driving. Any point in using this stuff or just keep it stock?

 

honda oe is more than adequate for brake fluid as well

 

Motul all the way.
Honda
Auper blue is super Cool

 

Ok thanks for the help, looks like I will purchase the OE rotors, OE fluid. I think I will try the Axxis pads as they are about the same price as the stock pads.

 

as graf said, the oem brake system is more than adequate to handle dd and minor road racing.

now if you were track your car on a regular basis then maybe go to a better fluid, but it won't mean **** unless you have ss brake lines, that way your oem ones won't expand under high heat.

also your oem pads and rotors are more than enough to stop you with a stock/nearly stock whp/torque amount. now if you had boosted the engine and made massive amounts of power/torque then you would want to upgrade to a better braking system due to the safety factor.

and plase do get new rotors... is not like you replace those every 3k miles, might as well get new ones on...

 

axxis ultimates dust even more than oem, but are more resistant to fade. Replace the rotors too, even with autozone lifetime ones if you want to.

 

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Autzone rotors get superficial rust everywhere looks like poop. I would just stick with OEM, honestly... even though they are a little more pricey...the overall quality can't be beat.

 

OEM are pricey? I just looked them up online and found a local dealer by me selling the front rotors for $80 each, so $160. I would have thought the rotors would have been a lot more considering the dealer quoted me $600 to change the rotors and pads. Any of you guys have a link to a DIY brake change thread? I think I will just save some money and change the pads and rotors myself.

 

hit me with a pm whenever you are ready to do them and i'll walk you thru i. its really simple

 

I appreciate it man, I am getting sick of these dealers I think some of em know less than I do.

 

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haha i'm a dealer tech and i know how expensive it is man
but at least i know wtf i'm doing

 

I bought the Axxis Ultimate Ceramics, they are good pads but they dust a lot. I'm with the other guys about buying new rotors, you can have them resurfaced but at the expense of longer stopping distance. New pads, new rotors.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeR324 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OEM are pricey? I just looked them up online and found a local dealer by me selling the front rotors for $80 each, so $160. I would have thought the rotors would have been a lot more considering the dealer quoted me $600 to change the rotors and pads. Any of you guys have a link to a DIY brake change thread? I think I will just save some money and change the pads and rotors myself. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats cause they are chargin you labor plus parts. haha 600 bucks. wow.

 

Joey, I am sure that you know what you are doing. I think some Honda techs/dealerships never work on S2000's so they dont know much about em. I am just suprised with the variance of answers that I get from one Honda dealership to another. One dealer will tell me not to resurface the rotors and the other will say why wouldn't you resurface them. Also my car just had a #4 cylinder missfire, brought the car to one dealer they looked at it and said nothing is wrong, said cars will just missfire time to time. I went to another dealer and they tell me the coil packs are bad but covered under warrenty so I didn't care. Its just frustrating.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeR324 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Joey, I am sure that you know what you are doing. I think some Honda techs/dealerships never work on S2000's so they dont know much about em. I am just suprised with the variance of answers that I get from one Honda dealership to another. One dealer will tell me not to resurface the rotors and the other will say why wouldn't you resurface them. Also my car just had a #4 cylinder missfire, brought the car to one dealer they looked at it and said nothing is wrong, said cars will just missfire time to time. I went to another dealer and they tell me the coil packs are bad but covered under warrenty so I didn't care. Its just frustrating. </TD></TR></TABLE>


i completely understand man and i wasn't trying to soud like a dick when i said i knew what i was doing...

is always a bitch when taking my cars to the shop since most of the time i prediagnose them before i take them in so i know what the problem is and then they tell me some random bullshit that makes no sense at all

 

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been here. done this 1000 times.

Axxis ultimates will dust an absolute TON over your stock pads. if you have silver or polished aluminum wheels, get ready- they will be gunmetal a in a week after you install the ultimates. even though the oem brakes for s2k's are nice, these pads will be a pretty decent upgrade if you are staying on the street. axxis pads, as mentioned, are more resistant to fading. Depending on how much you drive though, you may be replacing the front pads within a year.

It is possible to boil oem fluid on your so called 'spiritted drives.' I've done it. sucks when it happens. super blue isn't at all expensive and works very well. you do not have to have stainless steal braided lines to reap the benefit of higher temp brake fluid. super blue is probably only 2 or 3 bucks more than oem fluid and is much much much better. Why cheap out? when you completely boil fluid you have no brakes... you could wreck. don't do that.

the autozone rotors are around 90$ for a set...maybe 110$? i can't remember but still a lot cheaper and they will replace them if you warp them. plus, even though they rust, you can easily hit them with some high temp black paint (on the non-braking surface) and make that problem go away forever. plus- oem rotors will rust, too, so why not pay less and get the warranty? (plus, with that money you save you could get cobalt GT Sports pads and have unbelievable braking power compared to the axxis!- I've had both)

like joey said- this is a very easy DIY.

And Congratulations! you are on the right track! BBKs are for GAYS. brake pad surface (and tires) will make more of a difference in brake performance than the actual size of your rotors. and a lot of BBK don't even increase your braking surface when you stay with oem calipers.

Goodluck!

 

plus, you can take your old rotors to scrap metal place and make out with a lil bit of extra cash toward your upgrade

 

I pick Ultimates or Hawk HPS over stock, better performance and last longer. I used have both and feel good with both.

 

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neither of those pads will last longer than oem.

 

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those are 100 per front and 70 per rear, try aftermarket replacement.

generally speaking you need to turn your rotor after you done with first set and replace when you dont with second set. i finish my first set of pad and the rotor have wore off about .5mm(25mm new, i am at 24.5, the min is 23 front)

 

So I am about to order all the parts I need to change the front brakes. I am 100% on gettin the Axxis pads and the Super Blue fluid. I would like to order most of the parts from the same company, I am gettin the pads from brakewarehouse.com for $82 and i'd like to get the rotors there as well. I can get a Brembo Vented OE replacement for $100 or the same from a company called Centric for $72 but I know I don't really need a vented rotor. Next option is a standard rotor from Centric called C-TEK for $45 or the same from a Co. called Autopart international for $65. Anyone ever heard of these companies. I think I may just get the stock rotors as I know I will be getting a quality part.