so back on topic...did you decide what you are going to go with? The Z4 or the S?

 

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so your saying that because I'm under 18 I should not be able to spend my OWN money that I EARNED to buy a car for myself?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, read my quote below. I gave you a thumbs up for buying it with your own money I respect that to the nth degree. What I disagree with is someone just handing their sub 18 year old a $30K car without them having to work for it at all. Anyway, this could be covered in another thread...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TXS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off...your welcome for the help. Secondly I wasn't trying to flame, I was just asking, I believe someone should earn their vehicle and not have it handed to them. I respect the fact you have the money for it, that's the way to go I just know too many kids that have ruined 30K+ cars that their parents bought for them. I make very good money and will never buy my kid a car that expensive. They can earn it themselves just like I have through hard work. So truce man...hope you have fun with the car whichever you pick

P.S. What fueled that initial comment was the fact your profile has an age of 26. I would hope that any 26 year old would be buying their own car...I didn't realize you were under 18</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

get the S, z4 is for older guys

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TXS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so back on topic...did you decide what you are going to go with? The Z4 or the S?</TD></TR></TABLE>

im going to hawaii and i decide when i get back. No use in getting a car that ill drive for a day then leave.

 

Good point, I'm sure you'll love either one...they are both fun to drive.

 

this is a dumb thread, because 90% of what is being said is false or just rumored...

and lastly the S2000 is a much better buy for the cash than a boxster...

but..to correct you on your info...

the s2000 1/4 mile stock ACCORDING TO HONDA is 14.1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a dumb thread, because 90% of what is being said is false or just rumored...

and lastly the S2000 is a much better buy for the cash than a boxster...

but..to correct you on your info...

the s2000 1/4 mile stock ACCORDING TO HONDA is 14.1</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he was refering to real world 1/4 mile times (some of which have been as low as 13.8)

 

I'm hoping that there will be no MY05 so that the value of our cars will increase I agree with what most are saying, MY05 will be exactly the same as the MY04, I just wish the would bring Moonrock as a USDM color. And I wish they would bring back the GPW/Red color combo.

 

i want he original 00 black/red , or just change the black to actuall black and not charcoal (interior)

 

There was a road test in EVO magazine between the 3.0 Z4 and the UKDM 04 S2000 (Still has the F20C). They said that the Z4 had a poor ride compared to the S, probably due to the 18" wheels and 35 profile tyres. Apart from the more relaxing drive, the S was deemed a better car in every aspect. This was a huge plus for the S, as British magazines dont really like it that much due to its uninformative steering. According to EVO magazine, the My00 got 3 stars, the My02 got 4stars and the My04 4.5 stars, out of 5 respectively. With reference to the 04 model, 'At last the S2000 is the car we'd hoped it would be.' They still rate the boxster 5 stars, but it costs £6000 more for the base model 2.7, than a full priced S with a hardtop, and thats before you add any extras (which is basically everything with german car companies). A motoring TV program raced both the S2k and the 3.2 Boxster S round a track. The Boxster was aparently faster by about 1sec. £13000 difference though, and the fact that the Box S had huge 19" optional alloys with 245, 265 front/rear rubber that would have given it a grip advantage over the 16" 225's of the S2k. The problem with the My00 S's was poor geometry setup, and that ever so evil plastic rear window. According to Honda, the only major mechanical changes between the My00 and My04 are a thinner rear anti roll bar and 17" alloys.
The Cheapest I found an S for sale was £11500 ($20400) for a 2000 JDM import with 32000miles. Chepaest offical UKDM was $24000. All prices from Autotrader.co.uk. $16k for an S is soooo cheap
Good luck to ya AG!


Modified by Hypersonik at 4:26 AM 7/6/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hypersonik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There was a road test in EVO magazine between the 3.0 Z4 and the UKDM 04 S2000 (Still has the F20C). They said that the Z4 had a poor ride compared to the S, probably due to the 18" wheels and 35 profile tyres. Apart from the more relaxing drive, the S was deemed a better car in every aspect. This was a huge plus for the S, as British magazines dont really like it that much due to its uninformative steering. According to EVO magazine, the My00 got 3 stars, the My02 got 4stars and the My04 4.5 stars, out of 5 respectively. With reference to the 04 model, 'At last the S2000 is the car we'd hoped it would be.' They still rate the boxster 5 stars, but it costs £6000 more for the base model 2.7, than a full priced S with a hardtop, and thats before you add any extras (which is basically everything with german car companies). A motoring TV program raced both the S2k and the 3.2 Boxster S round a track. The Boxster was aparently faster by about 1sec. £13000 difference though, and the fact that the Box S had huge 19" optional alloys with 245, 265 front/rear rubber that would have given it a grip advantage over the 16" 225's of the S2k. The problem with the My00 S's was poor geometry setup, and that ever so evil plastic rear window. According to Honda, the only major mechanical changes between the My00 and My04 are a thinner rear anti roll bar and 17" alloys.
The Cheapest I found an S for sale was £11500 ($20400) for a 2000 JDM import with 32000miles. Chepaest offical UKDM was $24000. All prices from Autotrader.co.uk. $16k for an S is soooo cheap
Good luck to ya AG!


Modified by Hypersonik at 4:26 AM 7/6/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats for the great info

 

also don't forget that the S was probably tested by different people on different days for each of the model years tested. One man's 3 stars is anothers 5.

the Z4 is to me a flattering attempt to copy some of the S2000's better features. It says something when the 2L I4 puts out more power than the 3.0 I6 of the Z4. Of course, the torque is great for relaxed driving but this is not what these cars SHOULD be for. besides, the S has plenty of torque, in fact lots of torque for a 2L engine.

 

I leave in the morning for hawaii so post some more stuff up so when I get back I can make convince my mom to let me get the s2000.

 

I just bought a sebring Silver s2k last week and they gave in a great deal.... so bargin with them i got my car for $30,800 before tax& license....

 

I can get one for 31 ill try to get it down more but a few hundred is not the end of the world

 

That 2006 CRX looks like a Prius :-( I like the old CRX better, and make your CRX convertible it's pimp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hypersonik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> According to Honda, the only major mechanical changes between the My00 and My04 are a thinner rear anti roll bar and 17" alloys.



Modified by Hypersonik at 4:26 AM 7/6/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

That must be for the UK version. The US version has the 2.2L engine now and different gearing throughout which are significant differences. I know the UK retained the 2.0L engine so the gearing probably stayed the same as well.

 

Honda increased the displacement in the north american s2k to satisfy our need for off the line speed. I wouldn't worry about the s2k disappearing in 2005...check out when it was the SSM back in 1996:

 

as for the s2200 rumor... the s2000 should actually be called a s2200 now as they upped the displacement to 2.2 inorder to give it more torque... they just kept the name the same. also i agree that it is doubtful honda will end the s2000 in 2005 after just updating it, tho i think the s2000's life is short. i dont think it ever had the demand there kinda like the lude unfortunatly.

as for the prelude rumor... i *REALLY* hope honda brings back the lude, i'd buy the first one on the lot

nice ssm pic btw, never saw a pic of it before


Modified by Paulnsx at 9:53 PM 7/7/2004

 

well the s2200 is supposed to be a hardtop

 

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I'm happy that prototype design didn't make it to production

 

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I think he was refering to real world 1/4 mile times (some of which have been as low as 13.8)</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, 13.8 has been done, but not by a majority of drivers/cars.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the s2200 is supposed to be a hardtop</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hope they make one then. There isn't much point in a convertable in the UK as it's constantly miserable. A couple would be lighter and more rigid. Got to be happy with that.

 

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A couple would be lighter and more rigid. Got to be happy with that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, it would be more "stiff" and possibly lighter but I have yet to hear of anyone complain about the chassis needing any reinforcement. A coupe is more appealing to road racers as convertables weren't really meant as race cars but people still race them on the track.

 

more flex in a chasis that is convetible. the hardcore s2000 guys have bars like roll bars built in i guess, dunno much about that but a coupe is better in the sense of handling overall equiped the same