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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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So yea, I believe i own the worst honda prelude ever made.

Spec : 97 honda prelude, 5sp, SH

They might as well as call this one Honda Lemon.

Point being ive had numerous problems that we wont even tredge into today. The one on hand is:

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Front right bounces like theres a fierce animal in the engine bay anywhere past 3k rpms.

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First im told that i need a whole new front end suspension by some place and its going to be $1,800 dollars. HA! NO.
Then the A-holes at meineke knew the trick, it was the tie rod and lower ball joint.... NOPE.. They send me off i come back.. Sir its not FIXED!. they then tell me its the "electrical differental" and to take it back to the shop that did my transmission 5 months before.

So now i bring it to the shop that did my transmission, they said there was nothing wrong with it...

Nothing wrong with it? It feels like a jackhammer past 3k rpms. Oh and the kicker is, I tell them its even worse when i drive into Vtec anywhere past 5k... they informed me i shouldnt be driving it that high...... yea. exactly.

So what the F*CK is wrong wiht my car!?

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chris26969 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So yea, I believe i own the worst honda prelude ever made.

Spec : 97 honda prelude, 5sp, SH

They might as well as call this one Honda Lemon.

Point being ive had numerous problems that we wont even tredge into today. The one on hand is:

Problem :
Front right bounces like theres a fierce animal in the engine bay anywhere past 3k rpms.

Answers :

First im told that i need a whole new front end suspension by some place and its going to be $1,800 dollars. HA! NO.
Then the A-holes at meineke knew the trick, it was the tie rod and lower ball joint.... NOPE.. They send me off i come back.. Sir its not FIXED!. they then tell me its the "electrical differental" and to take it back to the shop that did my transmission 5 months before.

So now i bring it to the shop that did my transmission, they said there was nothing wrong with it...

Nothing wrong with it? It feels like a jackhammer past 3k rpms. Oh and the kicker is, I tell them its even worse when i drive into Vtec anywhere past 5k... they informed me i shouldnt be driving it that high...... yea. exactly.

So what the F*CK is wrong wiht my car!?

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my guess?

broken motor mount, passenger side.

or, blown front shock.

since it's related to engine output, i'll go with the motor mount.

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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Thing is the run around is ridiculous, these mechanics are A-holes. but theres one thing i just figured out recently that it finally hit me, it ONLY does this in gear. If i push and bounce this baby up to 70mph, and throw her in the neutral. she will glide right down, without a bounce.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chris26969 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thing is the run around is ridiculous, these mechanics are A-holes. but theres one thing i just figured out recently that it finally hit me, it ONLY does this in gear. If i push and bounce this baby up to 70mph, and throw her in the neutral. she will glide right down, without a bounce.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are total a-holes.

only in gear eh? that helps isolate it, and rules out the motor mount. I'm thinking it could be an axle or a wheel bearing now, or something drivetrain related.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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Yep, 1997 is a bad year for the Prelude. That's when they introduced the ATTS and all the fucked up things the Prelude came with.

Anyways, it does sound like a blown shock. Go push down on your front right end and see if there is any play.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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yea its ridiculous, and the worst part. NO one knows what it is, therefor will not fix it.. (except for meineke who charged me 500 bucks and it wasnt even frigin fixed)

Im hoping theres someone on this whole forum that has experienced this and knows what the answer is, ive had this problem for over a month now in and out of numerous shops and no one dares to even fix it. Mainly because its not a tie rod or an oil change, these scumbags dont wanna haslte with it.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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500 bucks and didn't fix it? I would sue the bastards.

I would jack up the car and check out your suspension parts, i.e. spring/shock. The problem could be right under your nose.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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You could have a bad wheel bearing. Jack the car up, see if there is play in the wheel in a side to side motion (pulling and pushing) if so and all your lugs are tight, wheel bearing took a nice slimy ****.

Also check blown shocks (this would cause some pretty bad wheel hop in all situations, breaking, any sort of bump even if the car were NOT in gear it would still cause wheel hop over bumps) Have you hit any excessivly large pot holes? or curbs in the middle of the street? (crazy *** vertical speed bumps) large animals that sort of thing.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Its ridiculous, I know. do you think it could be the spring / Shock Even though it doesnt happen in Gear?

I mean its weird too that it happens only past like 3k rpms. I mean i throw it in 5th at 2500 rpms going like 45mph and theres no problems, but acceleration in ANY gear causes the huge bounce.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Dude, it's the axle. I know the jackhammer under acceleration well...
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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You mentioned ball joint....there is a recall on one of the ball joints for the 97 Prelude SH....I know cause I have one (had every little issues with my car though).
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude, it's the axle. I know the jackhammer under acceleration well...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree, it has to be some sort of rotating mass thats connected to the drivetrain. But do the axles turn even when your not in gear...i mean while coasting in neutral? If they do then his problem has to be something else relating to the tranny.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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The axles move whenever your wheels move. However, the forces applied to them are different under acceleration than while coasting. Remember, they are not just solid masses, but rather a combination of components at the joints.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Go back to meineke and get your money back. If they did not fix the problem, then ask them what you paid for and demand your money back, ask them if they test drove the vehicle and how they came to the conclusion that the problem was what they said it was. Also ask if the checked thier work and test drove the vehicle after to ensure the problem was repaired. Since it is coming from the right could be transmission, axle, clutch.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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sounds liek a bad inner CV joint. you can coast and its fine, but as soon as you hit the gas it starts thrashing around and making it fell like the car is about to bounce a part.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude, it's the axle. I know the jackhammer under acceleration well...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm gonna have to go with axles, too. If you feel it on acceleration and it's like a jackhammer, then that describes exactly what happened the last 2 times I f'ed up my axles.

Sorry you have to go through this bullshit...I've been there and that's why I always work on my car myself now
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Damn right. Any time I've had to have somebody else work on my car (lack of time, work area, etc.), it has ended up with me either having to redo it or fix something else they managed to screw up while doing the original "repair".
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would jack up the car and check out your suspension parts, i.e. spring/shock. The problem could be right under your nose. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wurd.

But you would think that the mechanics would be able to notice something
wrong with it if it was just the suspension.

I'm hoping is doesn't have anything to do with your tranny or atts system.

Either way, if I had your car, I would be in the market for selling it after
you fix it or converting to a non atts style transmission.

Good Luck
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wurd.

But you would think that the mechanics would be able to notice something
wrong with it if it was just the suspension.

I'm hoping is doesn't have anything to do with your tranny or atts system.

Either way, if I had your car, I would be in the market for selling it after
you fix it or converting to a non atts style transmission.

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I'm sure the mechanics know what the problem is. They just want to rape this guy for all he has.

I'm with you Chris, I'd sell the car after fixing it. Or **** it, sell the car the way it is. Trade it in for another lude. Pulling the Tranny/ATTS out is not an easy/cheap job.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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Before you had the tranny replaced did it bounce around like that? Because it may be the axle like everyone else is saying. You may want to take it back to them, if its only been 5 months there should still be a warranty on it.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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def check your motor mount
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Hey, the bounce did not happen before the tranny problem. It started 4 months after the new tranny. And we are going on over a month now of this car being broken going from shop to shop trying to get it fixed. I mean like i said I brought it back to the Tranny shop.(1 year warranty on the work they did)

So yea, they keep telling me theres nothing wrong with it. Im sorry, but im not being picky over a little sound or a small vibration. Were talking if i hypothetically bring this thing up to 7 grand to shift. You can't physically barely hold onto the steering wheel because you are bouncing up and down. So now im down to bringing it back and trying again and possibly drive it myself with a mechanic in the passenger seat. Its just ridiculous how they told me i shouldnt be driving it past 3k rpms anyways!!! oh and vtec which i said i need to go somewheres past 5k to even enable, they inform me thats why its bouncing cuz im driving it that high. im like are you serious?

So It would be amazing if someone else has had this fixed
Problem : SEVERE jackhammer bounce. ONLY in gear. So this does narrow it down to the drive train, theres no way it could be anything else because if you put it in neutral theres no hop.

thanks.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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it is your damn inner cv joint on one of the axles, i swear to god i thought my car was going to bounce itself to pieces when the inner joint was bad, and when it went bad it NEVER tore the boot, so it looked to be perfectly fine. but once i replaced the axle it suddenlty got a lot better.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Okay, so you think thats it, how much would that run?

Meineke thought it was the lowerball joint and that didnt work.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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I had a problem similar in my blazer two weeks ago... my spark plug wires were burnt, and the motor was only firing on 4 of 6 cylinders made the whole thing shake like crazy with vibration only when i stepped on the gas, low rpms it was fine, sounds a lil far fetched but that was my problem...
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