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Old May 3, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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Default vtec doesn't work like it should?

ok well i can hear my vtec and all and it pulls harder BUT i drove my friends accord with a 98 h22 in there and he only has intake and so do i
BUT when he hits vtec the rpms jump like...when it hits 5...its at 8 in half a second
the revs goes up like im reving the engine when its not in gear it just shoots up

so what could be wrong with mine?
=/

my compression is 200 across the board
his engine has about 130k i have 170k
both have 17's

what could it be? its like my car only makes the vtec sound but doesnt do anything
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Old May 3, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Default Re: vtec doesn't work like it should? (AznBlueBoy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AznBlueBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok well i can hear my vtec and all and it pulls harder BUT i drove my friends accord with a 98 h22 in there and he only has intake and so do i
BUT when he hits vtec the rpms jump like...when it hits 5...its at 8 in half a second
the revs goes up like im reving the engine when its not in gear it just shoots up

so what could be wrong with mine?
=/

my compression is 200 across the board
his engine has about 130k i have 170k
both have 17's

what could it be? its like my car only makes the vtec sound but doesnt do anything
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok I am confused. The beginning of your post says you can feel vtec and it pulls. But then in the last part og your post you say its makes" the sound of vtec" or whatever but does nothing. ?????
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Old May 3, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AznBlueBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok well i can hear my vtec and all and it pulls harder BUT i drove my friends accord with a 98 h22 in there and he only has intake and so do i
BUT when he hits vtec the rpms jump like...when it hits 5...its at 8 in half a second
the revs goes up like im reving the engine when its not in gear it just shoots up

so what could be wrong with mine?
=/

my compression is 200 across the board
his engine has about 130k i have 170k
both have 17's

what could it be? its like my car only makes the vtec sound but doesnt do anything
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WOW, you need to work on your grammer man, and I'm not gonna be the only one to tell you this, otherwise u will be flammed hardcore... so watch out. Clarifacation would help in your posts too. Are the set-ups the same? do either of you have a lightened flywheel? weight of the cars different?
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Old May 3, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Default Re: vtec doesn't work like it should? (mattmw88)

ok obviously it pulls a little bit harder BUT for him
it pulls like he has turbo or something
its like we don't even have the same engine

its like he has other mods but our cars have the exact same setup except he has a clutchmasters stage 3 clutch but i don't think that makes your car pull harder when you just punch it does it?
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Old May 3, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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maybe your car needs a tune up?

i had a similar problem with my car. VTEC was engaging but no UUUUMPH. figured out the problem was clogged injectors.

in short, check your fuel setup. hope that helped
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Old May 3, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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yeah its like i have a b16 instead of an h22....no torque when vtec kicks in but still pulls so i know its working just really weak

i did a fuel injection flush about 6 months ago but i did not change the fuel filter

plugs are about a year old

ummmm what else could it be?

should i just do the cap rotor wires plugs and all that before the scheduled tune up?
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Old May 3, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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I would get your sedlf a VAFC or some sort of way to adjust you fuel (ie Fuel Pressure Regulator) and tune your car on the dyno, If you do that not only will you gain a couple of extra hp, but you will be able to tune your Air Fuel ratio to accomidate you car(maybe even save some MPG?). Plus it is a nice acurate RPM gauge, and allows you to read a intake manifold pressure(alough I have no idea what the point of this is...).

Maybe check your spark plugs if they haven't been done recently. You could also make sure all routine mantenance is up to date-air filter, fuel filter, Fuel system cleaner-ie sea foam oil change, Mechanical engine flush-do this if you have no leaks and haven't been good at changing the oil and filter right at 3000.

There a lot of things to check for, for instance the IAB's, or seccondaries. Look for a diaphram (round metal thing with a vaccum line sticking out of) and follow it down until you see something that resembles a small throttle body spring(thing?) and see if it closes the seccondaries when you start your car.

Most of all dyno your car so we can see what is going on with it.

Good luck
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Old May 3, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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well i was thinking of getting the hondata instead

also how often do i need to change fuel filter? iv never done it before
plugs a year old....wires cap rotor all not changed

oil changed every 4000k about..that is in km

tranny fluid change
radiator fluid flush

fuel injection flush should of fixed the clogged injectors right? so the fuel filter might still be clogged or messed up? i use 94 octane
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Old May 3, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Plugs should be pulled and examined to see what they look like first in order to determine if they should be replaced, and to see if you are buring rich or lean, or good
Fuel Filters can be quoted as low as every 15,000 miles (not sure k) and I've also read in my helms that it was like every 60,000 miles. I'm not sure about the cap or rotors, but I;m sure if you called a honda dealer they could tell you.
I'm glad to see you use a quality gas, I can only get a 93 octane in the states.

obviously any wireing changes should be looked for, is your oil pan dented at all?
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Old May 3, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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theres no 94 in the states? damn
hahaah so what am i gonna use when i go there? =/
but anyways i havnt checked the oil pan for dents and i havnt done an oil change for about 4 months or more as i dont drive my car much

yeah i saw some fuel filters should be changed at 15k and some at 60 so i guess it just depends on the part and i dont know what i have in mine
maybe i should just change it
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Old May 3, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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it;s not that expensive to do, and I would suggest atleast an oil change and maybe doing a cleaner. We have 93, 89, and 87, and in cali and asome other places 92 too, some with and without ethanol... , Only semi major dents could really effect the oil pick up tho... does your engine smoke at all? Don't know what else to tell you.

Ha ha, there goes your 5 post limit...
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Old May 3, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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hahahaha no my 5 posts are not up! lolz anyways

is there a way i can find out for sure what is wrong? so i don't have to be changing everything thats still good?
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Old May 4, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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I just meant that you should be checking everything, and if it is old (according to honda) then you should replace it. Just keep up with routine mantenance and what not.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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hey man, i have the same problem you had with vtec, mine does't seem to have all its uumph either, before i had no vtec or oil pressure to front oil hole. now i do kuz i flipped that pin over below the vtec solenoid. could you tell me how its supposed to go so i know mine is right side up, and wat do you suggest i do to get more umph out of my vtec and motor. it does seem to have some clogging somewhere.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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you just flipped a switch on the solenoid?
can you post up a picture of that switch plz? thx

so your vtec kicked in too but just no UMPHH right?

also i only have 2 wires going to the thing
one green one and one to the **** lookin thing is there any wires missing?


Modified by AznBlueBoy at 6:43 AM 5/6/2004
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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i want to see a pic of this "switch" also please
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Old May 6, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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no its not a switch, you know the oil pin, in the vtec oil chamber on the side of the engine, below the solenoid. well if you take that off, there is a pin inside there with a spring on it. the whole pin mechanism moves up and down allowing oil pressure through for vtec, well i flipped that entire pin over thinking it would let oil pressure through at idle. and it did, and now vtec seems to be working. the pin is now spring side up. before the spring was on botom. i can get a pic if you want.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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im not sure exactly what your talking about but im gonna go take a look right now

either way post up pics because pics always help
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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so are you going to show us a pic of this thing?

also does cleaning the filter in the solenoid help vtec kick a bit harder?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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is the filter the one located between the solenoid and the head or the one in the solenoid that has to be cleaned?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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everything feels different from the passenger seat.
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Old May 8, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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i was the driver of both cars
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Old May 10, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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well i havent got a pic yet. sorry, well i've cleaned the screens, both of em, there wasn't anything in there at all anyway. and the thing is. there wasn't any oil pressure at all going through the vtec pressure switch. in the pressure switch is whre the pin is that i'm talkin about. but u knwo wat man, im beginning to think that vtec does work. and there's somthin else restrictin power. like an oil pressure
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Old May 10, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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problem. or restriction in oil pressure. not sure, i also think that's what's causing it to hit a rev limiter at 6500 rpm. thanks man lemme konw wat you think
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Old May 10, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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it doesnt have a limited at 6500
its all working
vtec is kicking in and i can get upto 8k BUT it just feels weak to me.....but it works....

so did cleaning the screen help at all?
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