Honda Prelude All Model Preludes

Tuning with Microtech units...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 23, 2005 | 11:08 PM
  #1  
SiRLudeVtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Default Tuning with Microtech units...

I was just wondering if anyone has tuned with a microtech unit...
I guess it could be a good unit, but it looks crappy...very....

http://www.centralfloridaturbo.com/microtech.php

Theres a link to the site - if you go to the video sections, i guess those cars are making some good numbers with that system....check it out....

How does it compare to the E-Manage?
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:22 AM
  #2  
edulerp97's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (AJBurks)

GO HONDATA.....or AEM EMS
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:24 AM
  #3  
SiRLudeVtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (edulerp97)

I'm not asking what i should go with...i was just asking to see if anyone has used one of the Microtech units - hopefully someone who has used it can compare it to one of the others
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:45 AM
  #4  
TimeRacer's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA, USA
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (AJBurks)

Why do you mean when you say it "looks crappy?" Do you have any idea of what to look for in a ECU? It doesn't seem like you do. That page has absolutely no information on it. It doesn't say what the fuel/timing map size is, if it actually controls anything and/or what, how it goes about doing it, among a ton of other things. Get a hold of a demo of their software or something, otherwise you can't tell jack squat from that web page. The emanage is only good for boosted apps too. Otherwise it's a V-AFC with a guess timing algorythym.

After looking at Microtech's actual web page it's a standalone ECU. It WILL NOT control any accessories that you may want. Much more barebones than Hondata if you plan to daily drive it.
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:59 AM
  #5  
SiRLudeVtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (TimeRacer)

How in the hell are you going to tell me that i don't know what to look for in an ECU? <--I was talking about the style of it that looks crappy! <--duh! If you haven't used the microtech unit, then don't post a reply....because i don't need your opinion....
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:38 AM
  #6  
edulerp97's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (AJBurks)

Hondata....
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:48 AM
  #7  
mgags7's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,050
Likes: 3
Default

aj....listen to timeracer.....

he, unlike you, looked at their website, and knew what he was reading....

you plan on using this as a daily driver, so dont get this ecu....it wont work anything except for the engine, no accessories.....

read
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:46 PM
  #8  
TimeRacer's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA, USA
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (AJBurks)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AJBurks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How in the hell are you going to tell me that i don't know what to look for in an ECU? &lt;--I was talking about the style of it that looks crappy! &lt;--duh! If you haven't used the microtech unit, then don't post a reply....because i don't need your opinion....</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you care about how the unit looks underneath the carpet or how it's controllers look, don't buy one at all. If you need that buy a pretty V-AFC buy that and be done with it. You obviously have no idea what makes a good ECU/Piggyback and instead want something that is shiney and colorful! Which are all attributes that every ECU needs.
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:57 PM
  #9  
SiRLudeVtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (TimeRacer)

UM MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING!!! DID I EVER SAY I WAS GOING TO BUY IT? DID I EVER MENTION BUYING ANYTHING? AND YES- I DID LOOK AT THE SITE OBVIOUSLY...I'M NOT INTERESTED IN IT AT ALL....SOMEONE SENT ME A LINK TO VIEW THE DYNO VIDS AND I CAME ACROSS IT. I HADN'T HEARD OF IT BEFORE, SO I WANTED TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HEARD OF IT....YOU PEOPLE MAKE SIMPLE THINGS INTO VERY VERY COMPLICATED ISSUES....LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF YOU HAVEN'T USED IT, DON'T REPLY....I HAVE NO USE FOR SUCH SYSTEM. I'M GOING N/A...AND I WILL BE VERY SATISFIED WITH A PIGGY BACK(VAFCII)....&lt;-THATS WHAT I'M GETTING - MAN, THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE DUMB

--I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES A GOOD ECU?...HMMM....NOW HOW'D YOU ASSUME THAT?--
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:05 PM
  #10  
Dougs96SI's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 0
From: TN
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (AJBurks)

Thank god for this thread!!!
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:45 PM
  #11  
Monkey Fing a Coconut's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 0
From: irvine, ca, usa
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (Dougs96SI)

the guy has a point, no one has commented about the system other than it doesnt run accessories which i believe the ems doesnt either, all he is getting are dumbass "hondata" responses, to the guy who keeps saying that many people run uberdata which is much cheaper than hondata, why not blab "uberdata" over and over and post ***** some more....
Reply
Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:03 PM
  #12  
rawkus's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 498
Likes: 1
From: Lafayette, IN, United States
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (twistedbydezign)

My buddy runs a Microtech in his 13B powered Mazda pickup. I don't exactly know what your looking for, but, his truck runs fine. The computer interface is pretty good, tech support was decent... Seems to me like just about every other stand alone ECU out there in the 1k range.
Dan
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 06:11 AM
  #13  
mgags7's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,050
Likes: 3
Default

well then you stick to your vafc with turbo and skunk stage 2 cams.....

as far as i can see you are the dumbass....you ought to read up and get some base of knowledge before you tell us we are stupid....

and what the **** are you asking this question for if you dont even care......

btw...all caps are kinda tough to read
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 06:57 AM
  #14  
dwayne.eaddy's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
From: columbia, sc, usa
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (AJBurks)

I bought the Microtech LT10s i have not installed it yet. It has one output rpm activation,one for temp controls (i.e fan) and 3 inputs. it also controls the idle motor.

I don't know what some guys thing the ECU does but read the Helms manual and you will see it controls everything the stock ECU does. What else do you want it to control.

Every one has there own pick AEM and Hondata is plug and play and that sells. Well microtech will be coming out with a harness and CFT has plug and play harnesses. If you understand what sensors the stock ECU controls and read a little installing it looks pretty easy.Microtech also comes with the base maps installed.

Make your decision on research of standalones not only what's on these boards.

Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 02:00 PM
  #15  
SiRLudeVtec's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Default Re: (mgags7)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well then you stick to your vafc with turbo and skunk stage 2 cams.....

as far as i can see you are the dumbass....you ought to read up and get some base of knowledge before you tell us we are stupid....

and what the **** are you asking this question for if you dont even care......

btw...all caps are kinda tough to read </TD></TR></TABLE>
First Off - if you learn to read, you'd know that i'm going N/A - it says it above.

I asked the question for the same reason why everyone else asks questions - for knowledge you dick. And - maybe i am the dumbass for asking a question....but your girl likes me just fine. Like i said before, i was getting some "USER REVIEWS" on the microtech unit - is that a problem? Nothing in the H-T site rules said anything about you replying to everything you read - if it doesn't pertain to you, then don't reply....as far as i'm concerned - you just want to make yourself heard - maybe mad because your girlfriend and i were caught on camera - whatever it is suck it up and stop actin like a ***** you lil bitch...

*Topic closed

Rule -
5. RESPECT Respect all users, including new ones just because you've been around doesn't give you the right to be an ***. Unless you have something constructive to add keep it to yourself. Also please respect the majority of us who have a literary education and Do NoT TyP3 LyK3 dIz yO! Type like this and you will be auto docked 2%

Non-Compliance: Insulting newbies, telling people to search bluntly, or buy a helms, being argumentative for no good reason, poor attitude in posts, blatant flaming, condesceding tone in posts, being an ***, warping other people's threads for your own benefit etc.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 02:27 PM
  #16  
PrecisionH23a's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,296
Likes: 1
From: Charleston, SC
Default Re: (AJBurks)

All of you guys calm down. We are here to help one another.

Just because hondata and other EMS units are the new bandwagon does not mean it is the best solution for everything. It's good to give options... it's also good to not show your ***.

I'm going to start docking points if you guys continue to be asses.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 02:58 PM
  #17  
TimeRacer's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA, USA
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (dwayne.eaddy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwayne.eaddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't know what some guys thing the ECU does but read the Helms manual and you will see it controls everything the stock ECU does. What else do you want it to control.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I don't see any support for cruise control, A/C, among other things. For most of those outputs you have to put it into critical things (fuel pump, alt signals, IAB signals, etc) and not the accessories which is why many people use the AEM/Hondata system. Because usually they're able to retain the factory niceities. O2 sensors, VTEC, knock, etc.

Do you have any idea what the maps size are? The web page states nothing about the size of their maps of both the fuel and injection sizes which was my main curiosity. It really just seems like this system is designed to run your car and nothing else. Even Haltech's seem to be better than this system overall just by skimming over the specs.

AJBurks: First off you stated that your opinion was based upon how the unit looked and asked how it seemed. Which I gave you an opinion about. Not everyone has to use a unit to tell it's subpar or not. Say if this unit utilizes a 5x5 map, it's absolutely worthless as a stand alone. I don't need to ask an owner to tell you that. In any regard it's a bare bones system, that seems to have a typical UI on the handheld unit and computer. Though overall you're going to loose the accessories that comes with your car probably w/ use of this unit as I outlined briefly above. If you're okay with that, further reasearch into the unit, but as you have made it clear have no interest in this unit at all nor are you interested in what makes it tick.......

I'd very much like to hear your opinion of the Apex-i Power FC commander too if you have the time. See if your established emphasis works on all pea-green screens.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2005 | 04:26 PM
  #18  
mgags7's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,050
Likes: 3
Default

aj you started the cursing and all caps fight....

you have asked really really stupid **** in the past....so i could only assume you would strike again

again, timeracer is right.....enough to run the engine is a lot different than daily driver.....

bandwagon is not what i am emphasizing here, my argument is user friendliness, and also the lack of info on it.....
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:43 AM
  #19  
dwayne.eaddy's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
From: columbia, sc, usa
Default Re: Tuning with Microtech units... (TimeRacer)

Timeracer your are right. I didn't take that into account as don't have AC my car is a hobby and i don't even have windshield wipers.

So i would say it does what i need it to do and that's adjust my fuel and ingition maps.

Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Omega Blaze
Engine Management and Tuning
7
Oct 17, 2016 08:24 PM
allmotorh2b
Drag Racing
36
Feb 18, 2013 08:08 PM
juiced2ndgenteg
Engine Management and Tuning
2
Oct 27, 2012 10:25 AM
jonnyb227
Other Make Vehicles
3
Jul 20, 2009 08:25 AM
SoulSurfer
Forced Induction
14
Jan 7, 2003 08:00 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:07 PM.