yeah well, it just snowed in my part of the country and sense then, my spedometer stopped working and my e-brake light keeps coming on.....anyone have any ideas on what this could be?

 

5th gen?

 

no its a 4th gen a 92

 

checked the fuse?

 

I vote Vehicle Speed Sensor.

 

if its the VSS he wont have a tach either. also ecu will cut back on F/A mixture and check engine light should come on.

 

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Wrong-o there buddy. My VSS was f'ed pretty bad for about a year and my tach always worked fine and the car ran perfect. I just had a jumpy speedometer...

Quit spreading miss-information.

 

my homies speedo doesnt work but the tach works fine

 

this happen to me awhile back. my vss was loose, check that first! right on top of the tranny (for the h22 tranny)

 

wrong information chap? i dont think so. you said your speedo was "jumpy" meaning it hadnt taken a crap yet. if the vss has the speedo, odo, tach, and vtec solenoid all under its control and it goes bad how in the expletive will any of that work. one pin can have corosion making one of them "jumpy" but if the harness is is bad then all of it is bad. aww expletive it i hate defending **** on the internet because everyone knows everything. im done trying to give anyone advice.

 

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Yep, wrong information chap.

Here's a diagram of the VSS straight from the Helms manual. Why don't you show us where the tach and VTEC solenoid are in there?



Guess what? They're not. I don't see how you could be tired of giving advice after your 30-40 posts, but that's just me.

 

ok well im trying to figure out how to get this adobe image onto the sight but basically the main gauge assembly is on the same circuit. if i can figure out how to post it i will. but this is from isis on http://www.in.honda.com. its what we honda technicians use when we work on cars not your little "helms shadetree wrenchin" book

 

a '92 wouldn't have a vtec solenoid. I don't need the technician's website to know that.
Is this car an automatic? 4ws? because the speed sensor feeds those, but not the tachometer. the ignitor feeds the tachometer.
do the odometer and trip meter work?

check the brake fluid for the light,
if the two issues are related check nums. 2, 13, 23 fuses, reseat the gauge connectors.
hopefully it's something simple first, caused by the cold.

at the speed sensor on the transmission, check the pins of the connector on the fuse box side - black always ground, blk/yellow has battery voltage with ignition on, orange has 5V with ignition on.

 

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Great, so you're a Honda technician and you don't know how to spell, use punctuation or post a picture. Wow.

 

alright let me try to clarify a litlle. the speedo works sometime... comes on and off while driving. usually it will stay on once it does. then when i turn the car off and restart it, it stops working....

 

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So, you're a honda technician, but don't use the factory manual? Nice...

 

alright...the fuses were all good...the brake light did come on also but i filled the fluid and it went away. i guess i will try to find the vss wire and see if it is loose but i need to get a chiltons or something to see if i can find it.

 

had the same problem with my civic one time. it was the vss. it would cut out sometimes sometimes it would work. sometimes it wouldnt do its own thing. i've seen that problem more common in swaps thought. but if its not the vss get a new cluster.

 

as much as h22preludesi dislikes the helms (though I doubt he realizes it's the oem manual), I would recommend it instead of the chilton's. Especially since the chilton's lumps third and fourth gen. engines together and it is horribly vague. the downside is you will have to wait for it in the mail.

Does your odometer work? If it does, the problem may be the gauge cluster or a connection at the backside of the cluster.

 

I vote vss. check the wiring . or the plug on top of the tranny to make sure it is clipped and not corroded.

and as for me being a shadetree Ill be as shady as I can be.

but in no way will my car ever go near a dealership if this mechanic thinks his vss controls his whole car.

 

I had the same problem with my car a while back. It was jumpy and would not work at times.

I agree with Hawkze_2.3 that it's the VSS.

Good luck in finding the problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22PreludeSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong information chap? i dont think so. you said your speedo was "jumpy" meaning it hadnt taken a crap yet. if the vss has the speedo, odo, tach, and vtec solenoid all under its control and it goes bad how in the expletive will any of that work. one pin can have corosion making one of them "jumpy" but if the harness is is bad then all of it is bad. aww expletive it i hate defending **** on the internet because everyone knows everything. im done trying to give anyone advice.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea and you dont know **** ...my vss pooped out on the way back from Miami and I just lost the speed signal...the revs are not associated to the speed sensor and vtec sure as **** isnt.."techs" like you are the reason why i dont let my friends take their cars to shops and instead spend my days off fixing their cars instead of mine


anyway check the connector at the top of the vss..they always seem to break

 

Yea, I have had 2 go out on me. (Different ludes) all that happens is the speedo drops to zero, or gets bouncy if it is not completely bad. Everything else is fine. Interestingly both of the ones that broke on my snapped the aluminum piece where the bolt goes through . Granted they could have been messed with before I got to them, but I still thought it was weird.

 

yea mine just had a f'd clip but yea jd3jdms did that and i gave him an extra one i had (oh john- lets not forget that pricey gift entitles me to deem you my indentured servent for life )

 

well the odometer doesnt work either but when the speedo does it does....where exactly is the vss cluster on the tranny?