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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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I just received the header and tried to install it today, but ran into a few problems. First, standing in front of the vehicle looking towards the car, the up pipe fits the head when bolted alone; however, the left down pipe won't fit the up pipe unless I unbolt the up pipe from the head because the chassis frame gets in the way. Instead I tried unbolting the up pipe from the head and connecting it to the down pipe but at that point the motor mount gets in the way. Second, the length of the Y pipe is too short to reach my cat. Third, he welded an oval shape gasket when I needed a triangular shaped gasket.

Just wondering if you guys had any problems with installation or any tips on what I should do?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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contact smsp and see what they will do for you or ask them how to fix the problems. that is what i would do first
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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ya, i did that already but i just wanted to see if anyone here ran into the same problems.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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sounds like he sent you one ment for a civic cause they dont have front mounts and there gasket`s are circles. i dont know if you did but your supposed to tell him when ordering that you needed it for your year prelude with a triangle flange and he woulda made it like that.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kntcdis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like he sent you one ment for a civic cause they dont have front mounts and there gasket`s are circles. i dont know if you did but your supposed to tell him when ordering that you needed it for your year prelude with a triangle flange and he woulda made it like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol...man..i waited 8months that would suck...but ya, I included a list of my mods and my engine and prelude year and everything with my payment...but i'll see what dave says.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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keep us posted on what he says!
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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Its probably something simple.But you should talk to him about it before you get all upset. You know the old saying ....Hey **** happens
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RMF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its probably something simple.But you should talk to him about it before you get all upset. You know the old saying ....Hey **** happens</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya, i shot him an email tonite...i'm not upset...just a little disappointed plus i wanted to see if anyone else had this problem...or maybe i was doing something wrong.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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Kevin, I responded to your email this morning.

FYI for the others reading/interested.

My H22 header configuration is the same for the Preludes, Accords and Civics. The only thing that needs to be changed on the jig is if a swapped engine sits at a different angle from stock. Install in Civics is much easier due to the lack of the front mount and cross member so the header can be assembled off the car. With the Prelude and Accords assembly gets done on the car if the front cross member is in place.

Also, all my H22 headers use a donut for a flex joint, no flex pipe and no "house" style flange. So, a new cat or test pipe is required.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Installed! WhoooHooo

So I was able to get it in by removing the front engine mount...made life a lot easier. This header is definitely worth every penny. SMSP = Amazing

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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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lookin' good
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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WOW! That looks awesome. I'm on the build list
Let us know how much power you gain.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW! That looks awesome. I'm on the build list
Let us know how much power you gain.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I will see if I can get it dynoed after I take my car in for a full rebuild (in 3-4weeks). But ya, this header is BADASS! Definitely feel an increase in the low - midrange power and vtec is another world. However, my car vibrates aggressively during idle...I'm not sure if it's because I'm running a 2.5" piping from the header into the cat-back of the MUGEN exhaust, which is 2.25" pipe or what? Any ideas?
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Recheck your front engine mount bolts, how was the condition of the front mounts rubber? Any tears?
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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the mounts look ok, it didn't happen when I had the DC header in there and after I put the SMSP in it started doing it.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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check how close it is to the front crossmember and the oil pan, it could be rattling against either

does it have a bracket to the block??
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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nah, there's no bracket to the block...the clearance looks good

what else could it be...?

everything looks right...

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Shaking at idle sounds like the engine mounts. Are yours oem or poly?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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It's oem but it feels like poly!

From my view, the mounts look ok...plus it didnt happen with the previous dc header, just started after i installed the new header.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Is your idle lower than normal? Does the tach bounce up and down at all?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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the idle is at 400-500rpms and the tach doesnt bounce (pretty steady).
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khalal538 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the idle is at 400-500rpms and the tach doesnt bounce (pretty steady).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is it supposed to be that low ??? I wouldn't know - i have mine idling at 900-1000(on purpose)
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khalal538 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the idle is at 400-500rpms and the tach doesnt bounce (pretty steady).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats pretty damn low..
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khalal538 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nah, there's no bracket to the block...the clearance looks good

what else could it be...?

everything looks right...

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try to reset your ecu man ... SMSP header has way more gas flow than the crappy DC so try do that and let us know if anything happend.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thats pretty damn low.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How high should I have it idle at? And that Flathead screw found on the TB on the intake side is the idle control right?

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try to reset your ecu man ... SMSP header has way more gas flow than the crappy DC so try do that and let us know if anything happend. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok..so all I did to reset the ecu was disconnect the battery for 5-10mins and then connect it back. Start the car and let it idle for a few minutes. Is that the correct way?
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