All-Motor H22A

Anyone knows if this drops right in, and you'd still be able to use the OEM Honda 1st - 5th Gears?



or must it be used in conjunction with their H-Series Gear Replacement Set

cpforyou

4.364 doesn't seem like much of a boost. I'd opt for the 4.4 FD if one is ever made for drag applications.

TimeRacer

Why would anyone even consider using this? The difference is so minimal for all the gears that it would be a waste to do the labor. You save < 5 mph per gear (if that much in most). This seems to be a waste of time to even bother doing. There's much better things you can do than changing the final gear less than .1

Daemione

It says the FD is an optional feature - so I assume it could be swapped in independently of the rest of the gear ratios.

As for whether it'd be worth it, it's most likely designed to work best with their more aggressive gearset.

Daemione

Something I just noticed on the site - http://www.saenzperformance.com/new_prod/index.asp

They say that the guy ran the quarter @ 174.55 mph . . . with a 5th gear of 1.00 (or 1.05), and possibly a tighter FD as well, that's gonna take some mad rpms to get that fast. Either that or really big slicks.

Anyone know what ratios the rest of the gearset is at? And pricing?

fastlude69

all someone has to do is call and they should tell you according to the page. also for someone who has more time and finds out the ratios do a comparsion of the gear ratios from that set to stock h22 and h23 trannies

satan_srv

"3.091 for 1st, 2.0 for 2nd, 1.412 for third, 1.05 for fourth and 1.00 for fifth."

Might want to keep your 5th gear then..

And by the way, the Euro-R/ATR is 3.285, 2.091, 1.481, 1.071 for reference. so call me crazy but I don't see a huge advantage here, other than availability.

117

From what I understand after talking with Jamie at Houseman, you cannot mix straight cut and helical cut gears (other than reverse) on the transmission. This is why he doesn't do a straight cut final drive for a stock H22 tranny.

satan_srv

geez I just realized those are all straight cut gears...talk about noisy!

Daemione

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"3.091 for 1st, 2.0 for 2nd, 1.412 for third, 1.05 for fourth and 1.00 for fifth."

Might want to keep your 5th gear then..

And by the way, the Euro-R/ATR is 3.285, 2.091, 1.481, 1.071 for reference. so call me crazy but I don't see a huge advantage here, other than availability.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Those are the ratios listed for the "dog ring" synchronized box - I'm not sure they're the same for the road race version. I hope not - with the exception of the (useless) 5th gear, there's almost no improvement in the ratios. I'll e-mail them & try to get some more details.

But I totally agree, straight-cut gears will absolutely suck on the street.