this is probably going to get lock... if any one got a spare block somewhere let me know or if you heard about one... I'm not worry about condition since I'm going to rebuilt it anyway....


[Modified by LJR-LUDE01, 4:35 AM 4/4/2003]

 

I've got a spare block, pm me with an offer

 

get a h22a1. h22a4's are weak with the open deck design.

 

dumbass shutup, you don't know what your talking about.

 

ya thats why Ive seen only h22a4's with rods sticking out of the block. Can we get another idiot?

 

do what? i have NEVER seen a pic of a h22 with a rod out the side of the engine you little arrogant *****, i have however seen (and experienced) more than one h22a1/h23a1 engine with fucked rod/main bearings, due to the different size and design of the h22a4 this isn't AS much of a problem. also h22A1's don't have NEARLY the cooling capacity of a h22a4. i hate all you dumbasses that just jump on the bandwagon cause you hear somebody that you think is knowledgable say something that you don't even understand and you completely run with it. an h22a4 is a superior NA motor period, thats why honda switched over to them, not cause they are cheaper, because casting that block is actually much more expensive. fucktard.

 

besides having a rod sticking out the side doesn't ahve anything at all to do with the block, once you snap a rod at speed your block is FUBAR wether it is open or closed deck. the rods are what causes rods to break, well that and dumbasses trying to run 10500rpm, can we get another idiot.

 

This thread rocks some major nads.

 

gotta lude you got pm ...ttt.

 

ttt


[Modified by Mase, 12:41 AM 4/5/2003]

 

geez... why the hostility..

 

::sniff sniff:: i smell...OWNAGE!

 

looking for a block

i need something to have sent out.. so if your asking a ton of money. please dont email me but will to get rid of your old block, since i need somethign, sleeved, bored and worked on. email or im please
i am ready to buy once i find the right one!!

 

Kteller I need a block sound like you need one too.....are you selling or trying to get one as well? ttt cmon guys I don;t want to pull my block out of my car to get rebuilt

 

hey Papa Smurf...you think the h22a4 is a superior NA motor huh...i guess that explains why all the faster preludes with bolt ons and All motor setups are runng the closed deck design, 92-96 JDM h22as and usdm H22a1....and i dont even wanna heany crap about weight because there almost no diff in weight, its less than 75 lbs...so go figure that one..and one last thing, yed th open deck cools a bit better, but is also more susceptible to the cylinders warping, not as much reinforcement..

 

and if the h22a4 is sooo great, how come ive never even had one come close to keeping up with my "apparently poor" h22a? explain that to me mr Smurf, maybe you should check your info again

 

and if the h22a4 is sooo great, how come ive never even had one come close to keeping up with my "apparently poor" h22a? explain that to me mr Smurf, maybe you should check your info again
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ok first off let me tell your ignorant *** that i never said that a closed deck engine was a "bad" engine, i merely defended open deck engines against your obvious *** pall thats getting pounded by everybody else on h-t at the moment. secondly most closed deck preludes are faster than open deck ones because a) they are better for boost * never disputed that* b)they are in older cars so they are off warantee, h22a1's have better gearing, and 4th gen ludes are decidedly lighter, just came in a better chassis c) there are just more closed deck engines around. it is however interesting that the fastest OEM prelude honda ever built does have this heavier chassis and the *poor* open deck design but still manages to be quicker *type S*. Additionally there is almost no weight difference between the engines, if there were any at all the advantage would be given to the h22a4, which would be contradictory to my point ie giving you the edge, so you really shouldn't try to defend yourself against a statement that could only help youreslf, fucktard. oh oh, about the cylinder warping thing, yea with a normal head gasket they might warp, but honda must have put some brain power behind this one, they created a special head gasket just for this engine that specifically reinforces the cylinders from "walking", thank god they didn't hire you.
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ok smurf what makes you think you know what the hell your talking about? all the guy did was make a suggestion, a good one. and your dumbass starts goin off on a bunch of crap nobody wants to hear about. closed deck is stronger than open deck design. open deck might cool more efficently but not by much. all my closed deck friends have never had any cooling problems including me. and you say open deck is a good NA motor? too bad ljr lude is boosting you fuktard
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EXPERIENCE makes me know what im talking about, your dumb *** probably doesn't know what a h22a4 looks like with the head off, i have seen/built both from the bottom up, believe it or not i do know a thing or two. the crap started when he started bashing a superior NA motor, it is him and you who are the dumbasses, think about it. who are your friends with these badass NA motors? do they have names? do they have real cars? or are these cars on gt2? hey i built a badass supra the other day with 685rwhp, only tooke me 15mins too! im gonna tell my momy, wont se be proud. anyway.....the cooling thing, the closed deck design's fundamental flaw is that it creates hotspots, fine under normal conditions, but once you add high CR and nos etc etc it gets rough, you get hotspots, can you say *PING PING*? lets try this together P*I*N*G, now go off and lick some *** you troll(s)

 

oh yea maybe porsche had it wrong too when they switched to open deck engines, damn honda and porsche, they make such crappy *weak engined* cars, why the hell woudl anybody want one of those?

 

pap smurf, your wrong in a few aera, a 5th gen bade lude only weighs at mos 60-70 lbs more than a 4th gen vtec, this has been discussed many times, so you have no argument there, and you wanna talk expierence, theres nothing youve done that i havent done, dont go acting like your more knowledgable than people on this board, you have no idea of anyones knowledge, and i dont even know this other guy, and i am not siding with him, but when i see an obvious dumb *** remark like the h22a4 is a superior NA motor i have to say something, yeah let me go get rid of my closed deck h22a and go get an h22A4, boy then id be fast..and im sure that 70 lbs lighter that i am, explains why my car is that much faster...and for your info my h22a has less than 50k on it, so its not even really that old...if you wanna get into a technical debate, it doesnt bother me, but im going to tell you flat out that my motor is aa better motor to build, why the hell do you think people sleeve thier motors when they build them, or block guards? which you dont need if you have a closed deck..im done wasting my energy on you, try not to be such an *** sometimes.

 

and how the hell can you even bring up that the open deck is better because of the type S motor? like the couldnt have made the type S motor in the closed deck, it was simply an engine change, and they added the type S to that you moron, and go get your type S, im sure i wouldnt have too much of a problem, BTW theres a local guy who imported a Type S longblock to orlando, he has the same mods as me, and ignition, he go to my track regularly, run 14.3 @ 99....so much for your type S being faster than me huh..

 

ok smart guy, maybe if i put it in simpler terms for you you'll understand. why would honda, who is in the business to make money. decide to scrap a block they already R&D'd to design a completely different block that you say is inferior? the block costs more to manufacture, teh R&D time alone must have been extrordinary. they probably spent millions just switching to an open deck design. why woudl they do that if it was inferior, BTW i never one said open deck was superior for boost, its not, its just a better NA platform.

 

i think any v-tec lude rocks ...imo
get off this crap and go race !!!! "at The TRACK ...where it counts


[Modified by ludedude95, 7:38 PM 4/6/2003]

 

whatever, you can keep your superior open deck h22a4...you let me know when you start making your way into the 13s..later

 

i might just do that, seeing how was running 14.2 with a stock exhaust and stock internals i'll give you a heads up in a 2 months when the only thing stock is the crank, maybe just maybe that will let me break into the 13's

 

ok you do that..lol..everything inside my motor is stock, and im alrealy well into the 13s....im done with this conversation, w/e