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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Ok,

I've been doing a lot of comparing of the H22A and the H22A4 engines over the last few weeks.

This weekend I'm planning on swapping in an H22A motor for my H22A4. Clyinder 1 & 4 on my motor have have nice blow-by (4 especially) and I was looking for replacement options... primarily due to cost of resleeving the block.

Anyway, along the way, I've noticed that I'm reading a lot of stories of 5th gen Prelude owners having oil burning problems. It seems that in most cases the problems are the rings.

This has gotten me to wondering if an open deck design is less stable than the close deck design of the H22A engine? Furthermore, if that difference may some how effect the rings on the H22A4 series?

I'm curious to know opinions, as I've been seeing a lot of the resleeving options for the H22A4 have bands the affix the to of the cylinder to the block... effectively creating a closed deck.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Default Re: H22A4 Open Deck / Ring Problems? (gerhard)

Yes the H22A4 is not stout block.. Most honda rings are known to be weak. How you would fix the H22A4 block is to put in a block guard. Essentially making it almost a closed deck. If plan on doing a mild build go with Type pistons with new rings and get a block guard. I would say that would be a cheaper option.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Default Re: H22A4 Open Deck / Ring Problems? (2kflamedlude)

It good to know what they are actually called!

I think I'll disassemble my motor and see what the differences are!

(The H22A4 after the swap.)

Any more comments?

Gerhard
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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well i have several h22a's and an h22a4, and the a4 at 115k miles consumes less oil than the 2 lower milage h22a engines i have as well. It also had minimal visible wear in teh bores of the h22a4 when i had to replace a bent rod a few weeks ago. So I am not sold that there is any kind of problem with rings or cylinder stability.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Humm...

I'm basically searching for answers.

I'm the original owner of my 5th Gen with the H22A4. The engine has ALWAYS burned oil...and gotten steadily worse over it's life.

So either I've got a defect from the factory, or there is something odd with certain H22A4's.

It is a fairly common issue to have a 5th gen owner tell you that they've always burned at least 1 QT of oil every 3000 miles.

I did replace the valve seals, and it's not solved any problems. So that's not the problem.

Gerhard
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Well, ever since my head swap my car has burned virtually NO oil. I used to experience a little bit of oil consumption, but mine has gotten progressively better, to now it hardly uses any.

It also depends how much time you spend in vtec. i shift at about 3K rpms for daily driving hit vtec maybe once a day.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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sleeve it and build it, remember that you can't run forged pistons on stock walls, they have that frm on it
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