like someone said before, im more of into spirited drives, the occasional street race, etc.

my CL will not be a dragster. to damn heavy. ill probaly get this Greddy header for like $200, because the kid im buying it from owes me some favors.

 

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but did you dyno it? BUTT DYNOs don't count.....
Just for reference, I saw gains of 15whp/9tq by switching from a Greddy header and stock exhaust to Vibrant header and Greddy SP2 exhaust.(~$1000)
12-14whp/10tq from s2s1 cams(~$700 with cam gears) Exhaust isn't as much of a waste as some make it seem.
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Agreed butt dyno's don't give numbers, but I'm sure if I picked up 15hp I would notice. Now if I tuned the car I might be able to see more gains. Either way I think going from a Greddy copy to a Greddy isn't going to get you very far.

 

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We ESP have seen a 8+ whp gain over the Co's you just mentioned. More flow to a point = more power. At the time I needed a H22A 4-2-1 header for my car that would perform well, make good #'s and hug the oil pan. 2" runners down low into a true 2.5" collector has worked out well and the numbers are nice for the price range.

To add to this post... having a good header with a 2.5" collector and without a 2.5" exhaust system would in my eyes be pointless. The Co's you have listed I believe both have a 1.9" collector exit...

JDM H22A HMO crate 40k miles dropped in with P28 Crome with our header, 2.5" exhaust system, 3" ebay short ram air intake saw 204 whp 166 trq dynojet

 

BLAH BLAH BLAH.....i'm a dork

 

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We ESP have seen a 8+ whp gain over the Co's you just mentioned. More flow to a point = more power. At the time I needed a H22A 4-2-1 header for my car that would perform well, make good #'s and hug the oil pan. 2" runners down low into a true 2.5" collector has worked out well and the numbers are nice for the price range.
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DC/Megan/Ebay headers are pretty weak upgrades over stock H22 headers, and you header is half DC/Megan/Ebay. Where do you source the top half from? I've always been curious.

 

95Greenlude is forgave

"Where do you source the top half from? I've always been curious."

Every product we make and sell is made in house.

 

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I am not sure if you are referring to me...we have never had one issue with our headers...</TD></TR></TABLE>

excuse me, my memory caught me there....i was thinking of camp 1320

edited my post...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ESP.net &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We ESP have seen a 8+ whp gain over the Co's you just mentioned. More flow to a point = more power. At the time I needed a H22A 4-2-1 header for my car that would perform well, make good #'s and hug the oil pan. 2" runners down low into a true 2.5" collector has worked out well and the numbers are nice for the price range.

To add to this post... having a good header with a 2.5" collector and without a 2.5" exhaust system would in my eyes be pointless. The Co's you have listed I believe both have a 1.9" collector exit...

JDM H22A HMO crate 40k miles dropped in with P28 Crome with our header, 2.5" exhaust system, 3" ebay short ram air intake saw 204 whp 166 trq dynojet</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd like to see your well-documented, corrected graphs before I believe any of that.

I have long doubted your numbers. There is NO way your dynojet reads anything like most other 248c dynojets. Unless you had some freak engine....

 

greedy is best than dc sport.... greedy more power... but lots spend money for that...

 

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oh rry?

 

hahaha lol i was just gonna say the same thing.

so anyone else for the GReddy header.

 

If you can get a dc with a 2.5" collector for a reasonable price, I'd go for it.

I used to have a greddy with a custom 2.5" collector, no complaints, made a tad over 190whp IIRC.

 

I still say go with the cheapo header for now. See how that works out.

 

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that tells me nothing. woohooo, 200whp.....let me hang on your *****...sorry, doesnt work that way. You have forever tried to compare your peak numbers to other people with the same mods to 'glorify' the header and i'm sick of it. Anyone who really understands dyno's and tuning knows that the resulting numbers vary from dyno to dyno and the only way to truely test its power output is to take it to the track and note the MPH.

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that tells me nothing. woohooo, 200whp.....let me hang on your *****...sorry, doesnt work that way. You have forever tried to compare your peak numbers to other people with the same mods to 'glorify' the header and i'm sick of it. Anyone who really understands dyno's and tuning knows that the resulting numbers vary from dyno to dyno and the only way to truely test its power output is to take it to the track and note the MPH.

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SAE was still around 198... feel better

 

get a camp 1320 header, gauranteed 20 hp to the wheels on an h22. thats in my opinion the only one worth buying

 

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wheres the graphs and comparison to prove this?

 

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SAE was still around 198... feel better </TD></TR></TABLE>

SAE correction covers everything BUT dyno differences. try again.