Ok, I have a few questions for you guys.
As it says in my sig, my car has some pretty high miles and I would like to rebuild the engine next winter, given I have the money. But since I want to run forged pistons and thus need to sleeve the block, I doubt I will have the money to do anything to the head. So here is my question, can I build the bottom end with 11.5:1 pistons without modifying the head or will I run into problems?
Also, would the higher comp. pistons be compatible with the stock ECU, or would I have to get it tuned? Which leads me to my last question, does anybody know of any good import tuning shops in Upstate NY?
Thanks in advance for the info!

 

I would definetely get at least a valve job done. If you consider saving up just a little bit more $ you could upgrade springs & valves as well.

Tuning is always a plus.

 

Ive kinda been looking for a good shop up here in NY too. Where abouts are you in NY?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vteclude217 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, I have a few questions for you guys.
As it says in my sig, my car has some pretty high miles and I would like to rebuild the engine next winter, given I have the money. But since I want to run forged pistons and thus need to sleeve the block, I doubt I will have the money to do anything to the head. So here is my question, can I build the bottom end with 11.5:1 pistons without modifying the head or will I run into problems?
Also, would the higher comp. pistons be compatible with the stock ECU, or would I have to get it tuned? Which leads me to my last question, does anybody know of any good import tuning shops in Upstate NY?
Thanks in advance for the info!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why not do type S pistons then you dont have to sleeve the block. Get mild head work done along with a base hondata s200 and get it tuned. It will almost run you the same as getting the block sleeved getting forged pistons and rods. That way you can use stock rods and type s pistons to achive the same compression and save you $$$$$. And still get your head done. Just my 2 cents

 

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Thanks in advance for the info!</TD></TR></TABLE>

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I have used a shop in Valhalla, NY called Maccanic Shop. Their number is (914) 328-7066. They also have a play in Conn. That number is 914-669-9679.

http://www.google.com/local?hl...11286

 

yeah man like ^^ said, go with the type s pistons and a thinner head gasket or maybe mill the head a bit, then you can build the head too and make a lot more power for about the same money.....

and definitely go hondata.....no vafc crappy crap

 

IMO, if you're just going for 11.5:1 compression, I would save a good bit of cash and pop in Type S pistons, remove the middle layer of my head gasket, and install some OBX Stg. II cams w/ the valve retainers and springs from RM or likewise.

BUT I would go no lower than 12:1 compression if I was going to sleeve and go n/a.....you can even run pump gas on 12:1

 

^^ what about the type s pistons, mill the head and get the head gasket a bit thinner, to 12:1 comp, then go with the RM cams, or are they too small to really take advantage of the 12:1 that i will have?

i still dont trust the obx stuff.....

 

Thanks for the responses guys!
Just to give you an outline of what I was aiming to do. (you guys may have the better way though)
11.5:1 pistons
Full Crower valvetrain and stg 2 cams with stock idle, yes I know a lot of people think that is stupid but I want to retain fuel economy.
AEM EMS (still have to get a laptop if I'm going to do that) I didn't want to switch ECU's is why I wasn't going with Hondata.
Crower rods
Would the setup that that you guys are recomending be as durable as getting the block sleeved? I want to have a reliable setup. How much do Type-S pistons up the CR if you just drop them in? Is there a Type-S IM that would be better than stock?
I'm in Rochester for those of you who asked.

 

Bump.
Anybody?
Sorry to be asking noob questions.

 

Type S pistons are OEM parts, and OEM parts are generally more reliabe than aftermarket parts.

And IIRC the valvetrain doesn't need to be upgraded w/ the Crower stage II's unless you rev over the stock revlimit, which you won't w/ the powerband you'll have.

Also, w/ big cams fuel economy still shouldn't be a problem. IIRC, Joel (Satan_SRV) had a built H23 VTEC w/ Crower stage III's, tuned, and still got great gas mileage.

I'd go w/ stage III's if I were going to upgrade.