*********************FIXED!! Woooooooooooohooooooooooooooo***************

.......and it was TOTALLY NOT worth it!!! I am sooo FUKIN PISSED right now!!!

I went from an H23 that ran totally fine to an H22 that bogs/hesitates through out the RPM band, throws a CEL 22 (VTEC Pressure switch), has a belt that squeels no matter how hard I tighten the power steering and AC belts, and a 3rd gear that like to grind when I shift past 5000rpms with Synchromesh in it.

I feel like blowing up the motor. I waited all this time, and spent a lot of money only for a slower, worse running motor.

Sorry, I am REALLY pissed right now. Flame me....because I need something to take my mind off of this ****** car.


Modified by AndyD at 2:31 PM 10/4/2004

 

breathe in with the good, out with the bad..... so who decided to finally wire the VTEC? did you do it yourself?

 

HAHA.

I wired the VTEC today. I was getting a CEL 21 while the VTEC solenoid was not hooked up. Now, after I wired it up, it is throwing a CEL 22.

When I start the car, the engine light does not light up. Right after my 4WS light turns off, the engine light clicks on.

 

lol remember my story, i got screwed too.

thumbs down to poorly running ANYTHING, whether h23, 22, f,b,g,h,f,salds,z,x,c,as,c,

i will blow up my motor, and it won't be from driving it too hard. that'd be too nice of a death for the motor.

 

Are you still using your stock h23 harness and just wiring in the vtec?

 

A couple things you might check.

The ground on the vtec oil pressure switch.

Also, are you sure that the pin that goes into the harness
for the vtec oil pressure switch is pushed in all the way
making a good connection with the ecu?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you still using your stock h23 harness and just wiring in the vtec?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, that is correct. I used VTEC solenoid connectors from my cut JDM H22 harness and I used the pins that CHK4TIX sells.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A couple things you might check.

The ground on the vtec oil pressure switch.

Also, are you sure that the pin that goes into the harness
for the vtec oil pressure switch is pushed in all the way
making a good connection with the ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The ground has been checked. That is fine.

The harness pin is going in.....but not snug. I thought about that but I can't seem to get it to stick as well as the one for the solenoid. That's the only thing that I can think of. I am not sure how to get it to go in all of the way. I have pushed on it with needlenose plyers, screw driver, and an exacto knife (the end opposite the blade).

I noticed that if the plug for the pressure switch is not connected, it takes a little longer for the CEL to come on, as opposed to when the connector is plugged in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The harness pin is going in.....but not snug. I thought about that but I can't seem to get it to stick as well as the one for the solenoid. That's the only thing that I can think of. I am not sure how to get it to go in all of the way. I have pushed on it with needlenose plyers, screw driver, and an exacto knife (the end opposite the blade). </TD></TR></TABLE>

What I did was take a good look at the way the other pins are in there
and try to put them in the same position.

What I would try to do Andy is pull the pin out, and turn it 90 degrees another
direction until it snaps in.
It should snap in, one of the four directions

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What I did was take a good look at the way the other pins are in there
and try to put them in the same position.

What I would try to do Andy is pull the pin out, and turn it 90 degrees another
direction until it snaps in.
It should snap in, one of the four directions </TD></TR></TABLE>

I tried that too. I will try it again, though.

I think I did too much with this car. That is why I am so frustrated. That, and not having a place really to work on the car seems to be really getting on my nerves. I also ran out of Dynamat to thoroughly do the whole interior also.

I pulled the whole interior out to put Dynamat Xtreme throughout the interior cabin. I cleaned the seats and carpet, too.

I hope the pin is the problem.

Thanks for the help.

 

why are u putting down dynomat?

 

I decided to not use my Prelude as much for the track. I am trying to make the car more liveable. I am trying to quiet down the interior noise level. Besides, I got the Dynamat for $40....couldn't pass the deal up.

I am going to build my 240SX for the track. I like the Prelude too much to use it for the track all of the time. I like the 240SX.....just not as much as I like the Lude. 240SX seems like abetter car to use for the track anyway.

 

You will getting it running good soon. Just get the codes figured out. With the 3rd gear grind i would be pissed and talk to whoever you bought the swap from. If its grinding still with syncromech it had to be really bad with whoever had it before you.

 

damn man, sorry to hear of your misfourtunes. As soon as I got my motor it was installed. That was great, but it didn't run right for 2 years. It wasn't worht the wait, but at the same time I love the hell out of it now. With patence comes a reliable, sweet *** ride. good luck man, and don't give up. BTW how is the dynomat? where did you get it? give it even more time and you'll find the error of your ways, and the you;ll get er done right.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and a 3rd gear that like to grind when I shift past 5000rpms with Synchromesh in it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey I don't know if this is common knowledge or what(I have a nasty 3rd gear grind too) but if you shift from 2nd to 4th and then 3rd it shouldn't grind. even in high revs. You don't have to release the clutch in 4th: just throw it in and then back to third.

I've gotten use to it and can shift pretty quick this way. And of course-this is just temporary.

Good luck with the CEL.

 

ok I just finished with my swap about two weeks ago. prior to that my motor sat for over a year. So I feel you buddy. Right after I got my car started a code jumped out at me. Yup you guesssed it DTC 21. Turns out the pin wasn't pushed in all the way (or the ecu plug kept pushing it out) either way I got that squared away. Then BAM, DTC 22 pops up. took me a week to get that one.( And I'm a tech!!) Well my problem was the pressure switch itself. It looked fine on the out side and it passed the trouble shooting tests so I didn't think it was the problem. But it was. I took a pressure switch off of a single cam accord motor screwed it in and WA-LA I'm now in the land of VTEC so give it shot it might work for you. (deep 22mm to remove it.)

 

Well I wish I could help you with the light but that is one I have never touched. What I really want to know is where you got that motor. Are they gonna do anything about the tranny. If not we should all be aware of there actions. Thanks and GOOD LUCK.

 

lol that sucks man. i just swapped in a jdm h22 and it took about 2 weeks and my idle sucks ***. i had a oil leak and it happend to be the drain plug for the tranny (i was too lazy to check). well i blew my h23 tranny. i just got done putting my h22 tranny in for 2 days.

 

Haha, good luck w/ the ongoing saga Andy. It'll be worth it in the end; things just ALWAYS take longer than expected when it comes to cars.

I'm STILL working bugs out on my motor, but I'm getting closer and closer to perfection every day.

Either PM me your number; I got free unlimited long distance on my cel and need to give it some exercise

 

Hey Andy, dont worry, you may have a fewmore bridges/hurdles to cross but youll get there, You just need to keep working away at it, one hting at a time. It will be worth it i the end.
I know how things can get you down but once youve figured out all the issues youll be really happy with the final product.

keep us all updated pal.

 

should've kept h23 n got turbo for it.... h22 NA aint all that.... i got bored of my NA set up in 6 months.. then went n20 n got bored n now im turbo

lots of headach for turbo but is well worth the power...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaxx4k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should've kept h23 n got turbo for it.... h22 NA aint all that.... i got bored of my NA set up in 6 months.. then went n20 n got bored n now im turbo

lots of headach for turbo but is well worth the power...</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHA. Nope, turbo is not an option on Honda motors for me. I am not looking to make a lot of power out of my H22. I just wanted a newer, reliable motor that makes power in the upper RPM band when I go to the track (not the drag strip. ) My H23 ran perfectly, it just needed maintanence (timing belt, water pump, a few gaskets, header downpipe, and a few other things). It was a better idea to swap out the motor with a lower mileage motor. It is a good idea, if I can get these bugs worked out with the H22.

My 240SX will be used to make lots of power....for a low price....and NO headaches Turbo your motor, and I will do the same to my 240SX. Let's see who can make the most power for the lowest amount of $$.

 

I had all types of bugs when i first got my swap, but i always had vtec. The worst one for me was the secondaries staying closed. That killed my power in the high revs.

 

Dizzy cap / rotor changed yet ? New sparks ?

Also change your fuel filter, take out your injectors and sit them in fuel injector cleaner for a while and clean off all the crud.

Code 22 could also be as a result of your oil being low .. do an engine flush and drain it a couple times then fill it up and make sure its at the right mark ..

I was getting code 23, 21, and 41. My code 21 was the plug going into the vtec harness, the wire in the bottom one wasn't holding solid , i got it in there nice n tight w/ some neeld nose by pulling it up high as it would go .. no more code 21

23 - knock sensor - was from the angle iron holding the IM to the block, tightened that up because it was loose.. its rattling kicked in code 23 ..

41 - o2 sensor, replaced the o2 .. everything is golden and it runs half decent.

AFTER i sorted that, I did dizzy cap, injector cleanin, rotor and she runs good .. I want to get a new set of wires for it now and it should be better still... I have a transmission oil leak .. either from where the axles goes in (pass side) or the drain bolt or even the seal so that has me down .. but she runs man ..

I was fortunate enough to have an H22 that was mated w/ an auto so it wasn't bagged on too hard ... but you will miss your h23 low end ..

One thing at a time, keep plugging..

hit the oil pres. with a multimeter, or wiggle it while the car idles from the ecu pinout, see if you can trip the code.. dont put the ecu plate back until the vtec codes are gone ...

best of luck and keep us updated, we're all on your side.


Modified by yohan at 12:49 PM 10/4/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, are you sure that the pin that goes into the harness
for the vtec oil pressure switch is pushed in all the way
making a good connection with the ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You magnificent b@stard!!! You fixed it!!! I thought the pin was going in all the way. I pulled the pin out to check. It was bent from when I was trying to push it in, and a metal piece was blocking it from going in all the way.

I am officially VTEC!!! My first time EVER experiencing VTEC (my mom has a 00 3.2 TL and I can't feel VTEC in that thing).

A cute girl in a Ford Contour decided to try and run me while I went out to test my car. Let's just say...I had some fun.

The highest I took it was 7200 on my tach. I don't want to over do it.

I am so excited I am shaking. lol. I've waited so long.

 

omghi2u ricer.