Okay so i have a 95' civic and i've had alot of arguments about how much horsepower i have.
I realize the only way too know for sure is to Dyno it, but to be realistic, i'm not going to
have the money to do that any time soon & furthermore i don't think it would be worth it
unless you have 200+ HP. If i had to guess i would say 170-180, but i could be way off,
so please help me out & give me your honest opinion. thanks

Here's my mods...

D16Z6 motor swap
P28 ECU
S20 EX Transmission
short ram intake
OBX intake mani.
4-2-1 header
testpipe
2.5in. cat-back exhaust
MSD 6AL Ignition Box
MSD dizzy cap
MSD SS Blaster coil
Accell 8.8 plugwires
NGK Iridium Plugs
AEM TRU-Time adjustable Cam-Gear

 

Your nowhere near that.

/Thread.

 

Lol, your guessing you have 170-180 with all those mods on a single cam?

You basically have your basic bolt ons.

If i were to guess? I'd say you have about 115WHP. At most.

Chip your ECU (if it's not already) and then go for a tune.

 

magic 8ball says 689whp

 

oh, i guess i've been mis-informed then. Is the Z6 not rated at 130hp stock?

 

This is precious.

Probably 125hp at the flywheel.


.

 

D16Z6

* Found in
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic EX (Japan Market)
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic EX, EX-V(US)
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic Hatchback Si,(US)
o 1992-1995 Honda Civic ESi (European Market)
o 1993-1995 Honda Del Sol Si (US)
o 1992-1995 Honda CRX del Sol ESi (European)
+ Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
+ Bore and Stroke : 75 mm × 90 mm (3.0 in × 3.5 in)
+ Rod Length : 137MM
+ Rod/Stroke : 1.52
+ Compression : 9.2:1
+ Power : 125 hp (93.2 kW, 127 ps) @ 6600 rpm
+ Torque : 106 ft·lb (14.7 kg/m, 144 Nm) @ 5200 rpm
+ Piston Code : P28
+ Volumetric Efficiency : 87.68%
+ Redline : 7200 rpm
+ Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
+ VTEC engagement : 4800 rpm[2]
+ Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
+ Head Code : P08
+ ECU Code : P28

I'm confused, 125hp from the factory + a **** load of bolt-on's should add up to more than that.
Can someone please explain?

 

lol at this thread. 130 hp stock plus maybe 10 hp from your h/i/e. 140 hp at the flywheel and as the person posted above probably 115 whp.

edit: a header and intake is not a **** load of bolt ons, theyre BASIC power adders

 

If you read my post you would see i listed more than just i/h/e.

So again, can someone please explain to me how i have "the upgrades i have" & have less power than it had stock??

 

Lol, it's 128 HP to the Flywheel.

Roughly 90-98 WHP depending on the condition on your motor. Then your bolt ons is maybe at most a 15 hp gain.

So that's why I estimated 115.

HP to the wheels and flywheel is not the same thing.

NOTE: Not all D16Z6 puts out 125 HP, remember their conditions and how they were abused will show it's condition of healthyness.

Hell you can have a D16Z6 that has only 100,000 mileage and has been abused the **** out of and have a D16Z6 with 200,000 and well maintained and still put out more HP than the 100,000 mileage one.

EDIT:
AND TO ADD, how do you have that much to spend on those mods and not have enough money to dyno it? Just wondering. It's like saying your bought an iPhone, but don't have the money to pay for the plan and only use it for music/videos. Hah

 

.

 

Lol, I was going to LOLCAT at his MSD's because they don't help out crap, OEM's are way more reliable.

But I just wanted to be nice.

Oh and might I add.

IBTL!

 

thank you for explaining that to me. I bought the motor, trans, & ECU from a friend, that's a girl. She got the car from her mother that bought it new, then was rearended, totaling the car. It had 98,xxx miles when i put it in my car. & I got most my parts cheap from friends and a few off Craigslist.

 

Ditch those MSD crap. OEM's are way more reliable.

MSD, will just cause you more headache.

 

Wow, didn't realize that either. Especially since i read on here that the stock honda coil's are weak & external one's are more powerful. I guess i've been wasting my money from everything you all have been telling me, damn

 

u wasted your money on useless things and shouldnt have picked up a D-series if you were looking for 170-180 with bolt ons try b16 or b18

 

I wasn't looking to get 170-180, i was guessing thats what i have, but i guess i was way off.
Yes i realize B series can be fast, but considering i've beat B16's , a B18, & a few LS's, hell even a 3000gt at the track, i just though my car had more than 125hp. But i guess it does have alot to do with the driver & how well of a tune you have.

BTW, before anybody starts calling me out, all the B-series i've beat except one, was on the interstate. & yes, i beat a 3000gt & a teg w/LS at the track. My best time was a 16.4 in the 1/4.

 

new to honda-tech just tryin to get my posts to start a thread!

 

ha, the msd stuff is a waste of money, its not doing **** for you.

 

gotta go to work, i'll check in later. thanks for the help.

 

oh ****, dude is running 16s all day at the strip! watch out!

 

16.4 isnt that fast any b16 or ls can easy hit a 15. my boy with a z6 in his hatch hit a 14.8 with just a intake mani and a tune and he made 130 to the wheels.

 

Be nice. We all started off without knowing this stuff.

OP, if you do a little reading online, you'll see that the D-series motors don't respond as well to bolt-ons (even a "ton of them") as the B-series motors do. I agree with the others that you might have 140 at the flywheel (about 115 at the wheels) if your motor was in healthy shape to begin with. WHP, btw, is derived by figuring in the drive train loss...which is anywhere from 12-17%...perhaps more depending on the vehicle.

If you do take it to the dyno, do yourself a favor and get a Hondata P28 ECU and get it TUNED...you'll probably gain some more WHP by doing so. But be warned, it's expensive (both the Hondata and they dyno time). But yeah, unless you decide to boost it, you'll not be getting anywhere 170 whp.

fm

 

Hey man, it's a start, I hope you're enjoying the car. I don't know why everyone feels the need to talk crap.

 

There is no way in hell you beat any b series with the bullshit mods you have. My jdm b16 eg hatch ran a 15.3 at the track grinding 3rd and no 5th! And you can beat me running a 16.4

You sir are a bad ***. Congratulations.