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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Hey, a friend of mine just called and said her CEL just came on, her car isnt running any different and it hasnt gone into limp mode, she said when she started the car the light came on and has been ever since.
Its saturday and there are no garages open that can scan the code, I cant take it to the dealer cause they'll charge $90 to look at the code.
I have no access to a OBD2 scanner.
Is there anyway to get the code without the scanner, i know the SRS system can be jumped and a series of blinks gives you the code.
Can the same be done for the CEL?


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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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I think the obd1 can be jump with paper clips or wire to check for CEL blink but i don't think obd2 can do that. Probably gonna need to find someone with code readers for that car. Canadian's tires have one but i don't think they one for rent..
Old Feb 19, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Try resetting the ECM/PCM to see if it goes away. If it does- intermittent problem, it's ok at this time.

Try your local mech and see if he'll read it for free or a small fee. The quick lube places sometimes will scan it (if they have a scanner).
Old Feb 19, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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http://www.k-series.com/tech_document.php?id=37

http://www.ehow.com/how_2214653_read-obd2-codes.html

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-check-cels-civic-jumper-harness-2760775/

1.
Turn the engine OFF. Locate the 16P, OBDII Data Link Connector (DLC) under the driver's side dash. In the Civic it is in the vicinity of your right knee when you are driving. Use a jumper wire to connect terminals 4 and 9 of the DLC. IMPORTANT: Make sure you are connecting only the correct terminals as shown, otherwise you risk causing electrical damage to the ECU.

2.
Turn the ignition key to the ON (II) position, but do not start the engine.

3.
Carefully observe the CEL. It will flash in a distinct manner to display any DTCs that are store. If there are no codes stored, the CEL will not flash. The pattern of flashes indicates a one- or two-digit numeric code. The first digit of the code is represented by long flashes. The second digit of the code is represented by short flashes. A zero is represented by a brief pause. For example, four long flashes followed by five short flashes is code 45. One long flash followed by a pause is code 10.

4.
If there is more than one DTC stored, the CEL will display them in sequence, then it will continue to repeat all the codes after they have been displayed one time. Record and double-check all codes displayed.

5.
Look up the meaning of the codes retrieved on the DTC Index Page. Note that the one- or two-digit CEL codes correspond to more detailed four-digit OBDII codes.

6.
Clearing the codes: If you wish to clear the stored DTCs and reset the ECU, remove the #6 fuse (15A) in the underhood fusebox for at least 10 seconds. However, if you are going to take your vehicle to a professional mechanic for repair, it is better to leave the DTCs in the ECU so that they can read and troubleshoot them with an OBDII scan tool or Honda PGM console.

(It Wasn't Me, is there an FAQ on this yet?)
Old Feb 19, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Some auto parts stores will scan the codes free of charge in the states. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same in Canada.

I also know my '98 Civic, though OBDII, also has a two pin connector on the passenger side along side of the glove box. I can jump that connector and get codes from the flashing CEL.
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by honda.lioness
http://www.k-series.com/tech_document.php?id=37

http://www.ehow.com/how_2214653_read-obd2-codes.html

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2760775

1.
Turn the engine OFF. Locate the 16P, OBDII Data Link Connector (DLC) under the driver's side dash. In the Civic it is in the vicinity of your right knee when you are driving. Use a jumper wire to connect terminals 4 and 9 of the DLC. IMPORTANT: Make sure you are connecting only the correct terminals as shown, otherwise you risk causing electrical damage to the ECU.

2.
Turn the ignition key to the ON (II) position, but do not start the engine.

3.
Carefully observe the CEL. It will flash in a distinct manner to display any DTCs that are store. If there are no codes stored, the CEL will not flash. The pattern of flashes indicates a one- or two-digit numeric code. The first digit of the code is represented by long flashes. The second digit of the code is represented by short flashes. A zero is represented by a brief pause. For example, four long flashes followed by five short flashes is code 45. One long flash followed by a pause is code 10.

4.
If there is more than one DTC stored, the CEL will display them in sequence, then it will continue to repeat all the codes after they have been displayed one time. Record and double-check all codes displayed.

5.
Look up the meaning of the codes retrieved on the DTC Index Page. Note that the one- or two-digit CEL codes correspond to more detailed four-digit OBDII codes.

6.
Clearing the codes: If you wish to clear the stored DTCs and reset the ECU, remove the #6 fuse (15A) in the underhood fusebox for at least 10 seconds. However, if you are going to take your vehicle to a professional mechanic for repair, it is better to leave the DTCs in the ECU so that they can read and troubleshoot them with an OBDII scan tool or Honda PGM console.

(It Wasn't Me, is there an FAQ on this yet?)
That DTC index only lists the EP3 Civic, would they still be the same for a EM2?
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GriFFIthS
That DTC index only lists the EP3 Civic, would they still be the same for a EM2?
Yes.
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